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(topic move) Prep for CoronavirusModerator ActionThe post that was here (and all 39 followups to it), has been moved to a new topic .. » Prep for Coronavirus |
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dks01
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Re: Prep for Coronavirussaid by g121:& last night's Federal election returned an incredibly similar result .. minimal change .. carry on as is.
try as i might, i'm just not seeing 1 in 3 Canadians supporting revolution.
the revolutionary popcorn got stale real quick .. The PPC was little more than a nuisance that allowed people to vent at their rallies without masks and social distancing. |
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said by Gone:1 out of 3 Canadians believe a revolution is necessary to take back freedom in Canada. 1 out of every 3 people you see feel that the government has taken away their freedom and they need a revolution to restore them. That's a staggering number. Get out the popcorn and get ready to watch the fireworks. I'm actually a little uneasy about where we could be headed. People are *pissed* & last night's Federal election returned an incredibly similar result .. minimal change .. carry on as is. try as i might, i'm just not seeing 1 in 3 Canadians supporting revolution. the revolutionary popcorn got stale real quick .. |
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said by DrStrange:"Many people are saying...". Sounds like a certain erstwhile American politician. Any sentence that begins with those words is unproven nonsense. |
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Actually, it is the CBC mantra as well...that way they can claim whatever and put their ideological enemies on the spot. |
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"Many people are saying...". Sounds like a certain erstwhile American politician. |
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I lost mine too, was subsistence pay after adding up the hours, never going back to shit money, nice to have paychecks with big deductions, almost forgot what that was like.
There is a skill shortage out there, anyone willing to work can find some. |
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said by AR:But you didn't complain about lockdowns and masks and then vaccines and Vaccination passports despite an undesirable economic event ? Why not ? Why aren't you on Twitter and getting up on the cross ?? Because in general life was fine - the wife was eligible for CERB - that paid bills, I found some part time and other fill-in work last summer and fall - that paid the rest of the bills, I actually quite enjoyed 2020 - I got to spend a lot of time alone at my cottage since that's where I was working part time, I got to do a lot of fishing and quiet nights sitting at my campfire, etc... At home we did some home improvements in our spare time.. I started chatting with some folks around Thanksgiving about getting something new FT and found several offers within a few weeks - played them off each other and got almost twice what I was making before covid. I got my shots within days of them being available as did my wife, I don't care if the stores want me to flash a QR code or something to pop in the door - if that's something that helps encourage stragglers get out of the "clog up healthcare and spread germs to the at risk" for a few weeks or months that's fine... Wearing a mask has generally never bothered me - I had one on 12 hours a day from when I went back to physically being at work until mid august - never complained - it was fine... (And personally, as a relatively extreme introvert who generally hates almost all people and crowds and socializing events - being told to stay home and not go out in public was a breath of fresh air in my life for a few months last year and again this spring - why complain if I'm, again, fed, have $, and a roof over my head - which is generally still the case for pretty much everyone - haven't seen huge increases in homelessness or anything). |
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But you didn't complain about lockdowns and masks and then vaccines and Vaccination passports despite an undesirable economic event ? Why not ? Why aren't you on Twitter and getting up on the cross ?? |
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said by AR:How about when you lost your job, remember that ? Almost doubled my salary because of it. Was the nudge I needed to go elsewhere. |
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How about when you lost your job, remember that ? |
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1 in 3: Think revolution might be a good idea, someone should probably get on with organizing it.
1 in 1000: Ready to get out into the streets to support some kind of revolutionary cause.
0 in 30 million: Ready to lead the revolution. |
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AR
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They'll just bring in more desperate immigrants when flights to Asia resume full bore. |
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said by Mark:So your world continue same old same...mine too! ...at the bottom strata here, the transient have had a much harder time of things, the usual hangouts like malls, libraries, drop in soup kitchens (pick up only now) and fast food outlets are essentially no-gos, the McDs downtown just reopened indoor dining months after legally being allowed.
I've been amazed at how acquiescent those the most affected have been, haven't heard them screaming online or IRL about much, pro or con.
Inflation is a concern, but that's what happens when the $$$ is printed and distributed to everyone, not just financials... Sorta my point - there's a few people left today who may have some impact to them - but it's few and far between - and not 1 in 3 who want revolution... Because in general as you look around and talk to everyone, life is pretty much normal for the masses... like i said - sometimes a little space in line, sometimes a mask in a store or whatever for 5 minutes, but in general - people are fed, happy, and going about life like always. It's not like there's police checkpoints outside the grocery store giving you a 15 minute access pass, or you can't go to the hardware store to get some bolts... we went through that... we finished that.. and at least here in ON we seem to have reached a pretty manageable and stable hospitalization, icu/ventilator, and death rate - things are pretty stable and under control with no new measures, and we're still getting about 200k vaccinations done each week (last week looked like about 100k new first folks and 100k second doses) - so every week another 1% of the population gets removed from the potential to clog hospital beds list. I'd bet if we do get a "vaccine passport" and they carry through with it, it would only last a month or two anyway - as our vaccination rates are amongst the highest and yeah they'll collect some more low hanging fruit - but after 4-6 weeks we'll be at something like over 90% of the eligible folks with a shot - not much more to be had past that. All of which in the long term leads to "no civil unrest" - generally as long as money and food and housing is available most people will stay fat happy and quiet. |
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So your world continue same old same...mine too! ...at the bottom strata here, the transient have had a much harder time of things, the usual hangouts like malls, libraries, drop in soup kitchens (pick up only now) and fast food outlets are essentially no-gos, the McDs downtown just reopened indoor dining months after legally being allowed.
I've been amazed at how acquiescent those the most affected have been, haven't heard them screaming online or IRL about much, pro or con.
Inflation is a concern, but that's what happens when the $$$ is printed and distributed to everyone, not just financials... |
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said by AR:Agreed. I spent a week in KW area...lots of patios and exactly what you're saying. I will just say people are realizing they deserve more in the hotel and restaurant jobs which pay shit with a brutal environment on top. Yes - and more power to them - businesses are finding out how much those underpaid employees are actually worth, when they no longer have them there when they need them... Can't run your business without them? Better pay them like they are that important. COVID was a great equalizer that way as it gave all those people with shit jobs a chance to think about if they were willing to keep doing that or find something better. The fight for a better minimum wage may somewhat solve itself when people just aren't willing to work for the current ones and businesses have no choice but to pay better to retain help filling those "shit jobs". |
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Agreed. I spent a week in KW area...lots of patios and exactly what you're saying. I will just say people are realizing they deserve more in the hotel and restaurant jobs which pay shit with a brutal environment on top. |
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There are tons of jobs actually, a few restaurant friends can't even get people to work still. They were crazy busy when it was shutdown to in person dining. And now being open can't get people in to work.
Probably like a couple of our guys who wanted to run out the EI and cerb lol Guess who were replaced right after that answer. |
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said by Artwebb1986:said by bjlockie:said by Gone:1 out of 3 Canadians believe a revolution is necessary to take back freedom in Canada. I doubt it is that high, maybe 1 in 30. I'd be surprised if it's even that high. Maybe 1 in 100. Because for the most part most people lives are not being heavily influenced or changed in any significant way... There's lots of jobs available, income hasn't dropped, you can go to stores and restaurants and sports events and sit at your kids soccer game and go for a hike at the conservation area and get in your car and go where you want... There's no doom and gloom for 95% of the people 95% of the time... For example for the last week for me - I went to work at the office Monday, stopped for a coffee at McDonalds on the way, got lunch at Tim Hortons drive thru, back to work till 5, came home, stopped at the grocery store to pick up a box of instant rice and a bottle of pasta sauce, had dinner with the family, watched a movie on Netflix and went to sleep... Repeated similar on Tuesday and Wednesday. Worked from home Thursday, got take out lunch from Mary brown's, grilled steak and shrimp on the grill for supper, etc .. Friday I had the day off, was just cleaning the garage for winter, gave away some stuff on the local fb buy nothing group, wifey got groceries, we had ribs for supper... Yesterday we all went for a long hike on the k&p trail in the morning, came back, grilled burgers for lunch, played video games for the afternoon, had pizza and wings delivery for supper, watched a movie with kid on Disney+ (Onward) and went to bed... Today I've been doing yardwork, wifey is washing the windows, junior is practicing piano, etc... There's absolutely nothing "COVID" related there other than throwing on a mask when we go into stores. I don't even have to wear one at work at my workbench now that we are all 100% vaccinated at the office - as long as we're 2m away from co-workers we don't need to wear masks now - only if you go to someone else's workbench... Otherwise... "No revolution needed" - seems to be the same consensus amongst coworkers and friends - things are generally fine - we do a few little things here and there too continue to be safe like wear a mask to Loblaws or picking up take out food, and keep distance in lines and queues, and otherwise it's pretty much the same as 2018... So not sure who the people who "want a revolution" are all upset about... There's jobs everywhere, stores are well stocked, you can go about and do everything you normally would... That doesn't lead to civil unrest. |
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said by bjlockie:said by Gone:1 out of 3 Canadians believe a revolution is necessary to take back freedom in Canada. I doubt it is that high, maybe 1 in 30. I'd be surprised if it's even that high. Maybe 1 in 100. |
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Indeed. More likely 1 in 3 PPC voters.....
My own limited sample size of maybe 30 people I interact with very frequently and discuss covid stuff with, has not a single person who believes that. |
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said by Mark:I don't see fireworks in earnest until food is too expensive to eat or it runs out and isn't available at any price.. That is mostly due to climate change. |
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said by Gone:1 out of 3 Canadians believe a revolution is necessary to take back freedom in Canada. I doubt it is that high, maybe 1 in 30. |
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said by Gone:1 out of 3 Canadians believe a revolution is necessary to take back freedom in Canada. 1 out of every 3 people you see feel that the government has taken away their freedom and they need a revolution to restore them. That's a staggering number. 1 out of 3 .. wow .. quite curious to see some source links .. |
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said by Gone:Lol. This is exactly what I mean. 18 months into it and those who have been insulated from the ramifications are as terrified as ever even though they're fully vaccinated and the risk to them is lower than it's ever been before. Those who actually have left the house and worked the entire time meanwhile realize a long time ago that none of this as as scary as what they're being told and see the collective bargaining.and politics for what it is. This has turned into a class conflict, and the division is now more stark than it has ever been before. 1 out of 3 Canadians believe a revolution is necessary to take back freedom in Canada. 1 out of every 3 people you see feel that the government has taken away their freedom and they need a revolution to restore them. That's a staggering number. Get out the popcorn and get ready to watch the fireworks. I'm actually a little uneasy about where we could be headed. People are *pissed* Hmm, I cannot find 1, in all the people I know?? Survey says, more BS from the BS pro. |
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said by NCRGuy:Right back atcha. Such a deep and insightful contribution. The irony was the entire point of the comment. Wooosh. |
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said by Gone:said by NCRGuy:But don’t you think he’s wrong about everything? The irony is lost on you I guess. Right back atcha. |
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said by NCRGuy:But don’t you think he’s wrong about everything? The irony is lost on you I guess. |
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said by Gone:said by Mark:*Some* people are pissed. Others have privilege to maintain. That's what I mean about the division. It's become a class conflict. said by Mark:let them try another lockdown here, maybe then some genuine unrest. Ohhhh yeah. It will not go well. Steini Brown even said as much himself back in the summer. But don’t you think he’s wrong about everything? |
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said by Mark:*Some* people are pissed. Others have privilege to maintain. That's what I mean about the division. It's become a class conflict. said by Mark:let them try another lockdown here, maybe then some genuine unrest. Ohhhh yeah. It will not go well. Steini Brown even said as much himself back in the summer. |
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