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Fios Gigabit 2.0What is Fios Gigabit 2.0? What makes it 2.0? How about 1.0? Any ideas? I have the Fios Gigabit 2.0 but why add the 2.0 to it? Thanks |
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There’s something called Fios 2.0? I didn’t realize. Now I’d like to know as well? Is that 5G? |
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This is what you get with Gigabit Connection 2.0
Gigabit
Connection
Ideal for a virtually seamless entertainment experience. Up to 940/880 Mbps.
Order now
$89.99
Per month w/ Auto Pay.
Plan perks
Order online to save $99 Setup Charge.
$200 Verizon Gift Card
AMC+ for 12 months on us
(then $8.99/mo after)
Whole-Home Wi-Fi: Router rental included + Wi-Fi extender provided (if recommended/requested).
$20/mo. value Whole-Home Wi-Fi: Whole-Home Wi-Fi includes one Fios router and Wi-Fi extender rental. Wi-Fi extender provided during or after installation if recommended after Wi-Fi performance analysis by Fios Tech or upon customer request. Self-install includes one router, and if requested by customer, one extender. Additional extenders available to rent for $10/mo. or buy for $199. If you change your Fios Gigabit Connection service, router ($15/mo.) and extender rental ($5/mo.) charges are no longer included, but may be added for an extra $20/mo.
2TB Verizon Cloud storage included
$14.99/mo value
+ Save $20/mo with Unlimited Wireless. Mobile + Home Rewards: Get rewarded when you combine Verizon Wireless Unlimited and Fios Gigabit Connection plans. Save $20/mo. w/Verizon Unlimited with Fios Gigabit Connection plans: $10 /mo. off mobile & $10/mo. off Fios bills.
Verizon Up enrollment req'd. Offer excludes prepaid plans. All discounts apply as long as Verizon provides & you maintain both services & both services remain enrolled in Mobile + Home Rewards. |
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Anon60813
Anon
2021-Oct-26 7:02 pm
Pretty sure it is just Mix & Match v2 which was released a few months ago. Pricing went up for 500/500 and gigabit, but gigabit now also comes with whole home wifi as well as maybe Verizon Cloud. |
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gs0b
join:2014-08-14
Bucks, PA |
gs0b
Member
2021-Oct-26 7:40 pm
said by Anon60813 :Pretty sure it is just Mix & Match v2 which was released a few months ago. Pricing went up for 500/500 and gigabit, but gigabit now also comes with whole home wifi as well as maybe Verizon Cloud. In other words, "New AND Improved!!!"  |
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Yeah, online chat tried to convince me to move to FiOS 2.0 at a +$50.00 increase on my monthly bill...NOT! LOL |
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Elector
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2021-Oct-27 11:56 am
said by doubleroll:Yeah, online chat tried to convince me to move to FiOS 2.0 at a +$50.00 increase on my monthly bill...NOT! LOL That sounds exactly like Verizon. More, more, more, money.. |
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to kmwoolls
It's just some marketing trick, nothing more.
If you are happy with what you are paying for and getting, that's what matters. |
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to kmwoolls
Would be someee icing on the cake once NG-PON2 hits mainstream and Gigabit 2.0 customers get free speed upgrade beyond gig. |
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said by snoopy3525:Would be someee icing on the cake once NG-PON2 hits mainstream and Gigabit 2.0 customers get free speed upgrade beyond gig. How so WITHOUT a truck roll? Current ONTs have a 1G port. The whole 2.0 marketing gimmick was merely because of the 1. Increased price, and 2. The addition of the “freebie” perks. Same as mix and match data/video became mix and match 2.0. All marketing nonsense, for the fools that don’t know better. |
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A bit off topic but on provisioning ...
Why can't Verizon just ship the new ONT to the customer and have them swap it with clear instructions? This assumes OLT and cabinets have NGPON-2 technology enabled.
We need a tech because they have access to a web app with privileges to activate the ONT via MAC or some sort of other authentication?
Why not just make a self-service UI where the customer activates the ONT via their account information? |
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gs0b
join:2014-08-14
Bucks, PA |
gs0b
Member
2021-Nov-11 9:35 am
ONTs are property of Verizon and are part of their network. Fiber optic connections require a bit more care than other cabling. ONTs were installed in a variety of configurations from desk mount, to wall mount and even outdoors. Power supplies vary from the old BBUs to the new(ish) supplies, and some even have the (useless) Power Reserve. Some installs have semi-custom power cables. Some old installs use coax for WAN and need Ethernet upgrades. TV and phone connections add even more variables to the process.
For all of these reasons, Verizon wants their techs to be the ones who upgrade ONTs, as they are trained and equipped to handle all the variables. Most consumers are not. For example, just look at how often we get questions about how to switch from MoCA WAN to Ethernet on this board. |
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 buckinghamDoylstown Pa
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join:2005-07-17
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Yup, ONTs are managed by complex systems in an end-to-end relationship with the equipment each one is paired to at the wiring center. It would be very unlikely for any carrier/ISP to ever grant an end-consumer access to the management interface for that reason. The router/gateway is the demarcation between the carrier/ISP network, not the ONT. |
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said by InternetBat:A bit off topic but on provisioning ...
Why can't Verizon just ship the new ONT to the customer and have them swap it with clear instructions? This assumes OLT and cabinets have NGPON-2 technology enabled.
We need a tech because they have access to a web app with privileges to activate the ONT via MAC or some sort of other authentication?
Why not just make a self-service UI where the customer activates the ONT via their account information? 1. Liability for dumb customers looking into a class 1 laser? 2. Broken fibers galore! Most folks have NO knowledge of fiber optic and would yank the cable, not the clip. 3. Installing/provisioning an ONT is union work. 4. MOST customers have ZERO desire to do ANYTHING. 2 months of not going into houses during Covid and asking customers to use a video chat to show things was EXCRUCIATING for both the customer and tech. 5. Customers not maintain the clean fiber end, thus giving poor/no connections. |
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Yuck, so they raised it another $10 a month, wow. I'm still on $79.99 at the moment, I signed up June 2021. See what happens come June 2022.
AT&T is now offering 2Gbps and 5Gbps fiber. So come on Fios compete once again already! |
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FiOS 2 Gbps is set to roll out in some markets as soon as next month. 5 Gbps will occur at some point in the future as well. It will be based on NGPON2, which is superior to the XGS-PON AT&T is using. 10 Gbps is potentially in the cards as well given the specs on Verizon’s new router. |
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Anon292ab to war59312
Anon
2022-Jan-28 9:03 pm
to war59312
said by war59312:AT&T is now offering 2Gbps and 5Gbps fiber. So come on Fios compete once again already! Att and Fios service areas do not overlap. They both just need to be better than coax cable companies that they do compete with. |
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to InternetBat
said by InternetBat:A bit off topic but on provisioning ...
Why can't Verizon just ship the new ONT to the customer and have them swap it with clear instructions? This assumes OLT and cabinets have NGPON-2 technology enabled.
We need a tech because they have access to a web app with privileges to activate the ONT via MAC or some sort of other authentication?
Why not just make a self-service UI where the customer activates the ONT via their account information? It’s not that simple. I don’t work for Verizon but from what I’ve gathered, BPON, GPON, & NGPON2 are NOT Interoperable. There are a SHIT Tom of passive optical splitters at the neighborhood cabinet. When customers get switched over from BPON to GPON, a tech physically has to go to this box and switch the fiber going to their home/unit from the BPON Splitter to the GPON Splitter. And with NGPON2 being rolled out, there’s even more changes. The last few months, Verizon has been sending notices to come to peoples home and change out their BPON Unit for a GPON Because Verizon is eliminating the BPON Signals/OLT cards at the Central Office in order to repurpose the BPON passive splitters in cabinets to NGPON2 so yea. Maybe it’s interoperable but NGPON2 will not utilize RFoG anymore for TV broadcast. Maybe because Cellular and enterprise fiber will be sharing the OLT cards. Eventually they will release IPTV boxes soon but yea, progress. And I relocated the ONT box in my own home. Disconnecting the APC fiber jack is a challenge of its own, I can’t imagine a dumb residential customer being able to figure it out without damaging it. Plus again, you need to swap fiber jacks at the passive splitter cabinet. You let a rando customer into a box like that and they risk causing thousands of damage… |
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said by transit54:FiOS 2 Gbps is set to roll out in some markets as soon as next month. Monday, 1/31 |
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 tito79
join:2010-03-14
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tito79
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2022-Jan-29 9:16 pm
I'll believe it when I see it |
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If true 119 a month
Doesn't support voice
Doesn't support video |
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to Darthgamer64
said by Darthgamer64:It’s not that simple. I don’t work for Verizon but from what I’ve gathered, BPON, GPON, & NGPON2 are NOT Interoperable. NG-PON2 is designed to be interoperable with GPON but otherwise I believe you are correct. No idea if Verizon will implement it on the same splitters but when I order my upgrade I can post an update if the tech had to move my port in the FDH. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NG-PON2 |
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 Smith6612
MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
Ubee E31U2V1
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to Darthgamer64
A benefit to not doing RF over the Fiber anymore is the option to use cheaper ONTs, and less complexity in the Central office with Fiber Muxes. Probably comes with some hefty space savings as well which will make for more room/power space for more OLTs.
My understanding is NGPON2 can co-exist with GPON similar to how XGS-PON can co-exist with GPON on the same Fiber. It is BPON which cannot. |
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Those space savings won’t be right away until all RFoG is phased out. Maybe it’ll be another incentive to expand. But again, I don’t think they will coexist because existing users with RFoG TV boxes & TiVos are on GPON. Just switching them all at the cabinet will give them a bad day lol. I just wanna start seeing more microcells here in Jersey if they’re going they all this effort lol. |
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Premium Member
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to kmwoolls
I replaced my G1100 router with a G3100 router when I dropped my TV service, so it was a self-install to Gigabit Connection 2.0. A few weeks after I had everything up and running, I received this email. |
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bsangs
join:2002-08-21
Montclair, NJ ·Verizon FiOS
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bsangs
Member
2022-Jan-31 9:04 am
You can still request the extender if you'd like, and it's free. I did, and was totally worth it. The second and third floors of my house have full coverage thanks to it. It's hard-wired into a coax connection. Plus, it gives you two Ethernet ports available wherever you place it. |
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Sterling, VA |
jmn1207
Premium Member
2022-Jan-31 2:26 pm
said by bsangs:You can still request the extender if you'd like, and it's free. I did, and was totally worth it. The second and third floors of my house have full coverage thanks to it. It's hard-wired into a coax connection. Plus, it gives you two Ethernet ports available wherever you place it. I didn't realize it was connected via coax. I have coax all over the place where I removed the set top boxes. I have a few spare 8/4 port 1000/100/10 network switches sitting around that I can place near the extender to connect a bunch of devices that are currently using WiFi in my game room. (4K Smart TV, a couple of game consoles, Apple TV device, Spider360 dartboard) This is great. I was able to order the extender and it is on the way, free as part of my service. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. |
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bsangs
join:2002-08-21
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bsangs
Member
2022-Feb-1 6:40 am
My pleasure. Yup, just connect the coax, plug it in, let it run through its initialization, and you're done. It's automatically assigned your existing network credentials, and you log into it through the same interface as the main router. Couldn't be much easier. |
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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Sterling, VA |
jmn1207
Premium Member
2022-Feb-1 7:22 pm
said by bsangs:My pleasure. Yup, just connect the coax, plug it in, let it run through its initialization, and you're done. It's automatically assigned your existing network credentials, and you log into it through the same interface as the main router. Couldn't be much easier. Nice and easy. I did notice that to access the extender, even though it has its own password printed on the back, I still needed to use the custom-created password I set for my router to access it. I was getting good WiFi on the lower level where I placed the extender, but it can't hurt to have fewer devices using WiFi, and my Xbox Series X is so much better when downloading big game updates now. If I had known I could use the existing coaxial in my home to behave like an ethernet cable with Gigabit speeds, I would have certainly kept the extender the first time. |
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