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join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON

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Re: Prep for Coronavirus

said by Walter Dnes:

ICU cases are a one or two week lagging indicator. Let's see what it looks like around Christmas (keeping fingers crossed).

New infections have been increasing for more than two weeks and there has not been the subsequent increase in ICU admissions that one would expect based on that increase. You're waiting for something that would have already happened if there was reason for alarm.

Vaccines work, and Omicron is going to be a live virus booster.

hlo207
join:2012-11-16
North York, ON

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And there was that Dr Juni prediction about grand case count explosion in Toronto 3 days after Kingston. Not seeing anything like that so far.

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He's the same guy who said 45,000 in ICU or something back in September. I'll just leave it at that.

A lot of careers are going to be ended up COVID, and now it's about squeezing out the last drop before that happens.

hlo207
join:2012-11-16
North York, ON

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He is the person that has been crying wolf louder than the modelling data for the last few waves.

That Dr Issac Bogooch that CP24 talks to daily is more realistic and doesn't scare people as much.

AR

join:2000-09-21
Toronto, ON

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If he said that....the guy needs to chill the fuck out.

Do these guys give any hope like maybe just maybe Omicron and vaccines will be all okay and good? Or are they all constant doom and gloom ???

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said by AR:

Or are they all constant doom and gloom ???

They're all doom and gloom. Juni is the one who started the "Less severe is a myth" misinformation campaign. It's not a myth. It's scientifically proven, but these guys really don't care about any of that anymore.
your moderator at work

AR

join:2000-09-21
Toronto, ON

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Re: Prep for Coronavirus

We should have these clowns 🤡 face professional disciplinary committee if the Omicron variant is ultimately mild.

Because they have a license to practice medicine/public health, not practice it irresponsibly. Would an oncologist muse about weekly chemotherapy to a patient with Stage 1 basal cell which is absolutely treated for remission outcomes with just excision?

I understand this virus transmits rapidly but Israel told us boosters are needed after 7 months.....before Omicron. Go with that first as a public health response measure and stop with speculation on TV and Twitter; you're a fucking Doctor, not a political talk show host on Cable.
taraf
join:2011-05-07
Ottawa, ON

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said by AR:

We should have these clowns 🤡 face professional disciplinary committee if the Omicron variant is ultimately mild.

No. Because if they're doing their job right, it will be mild.
gbwalsh
join:2010-07-25
Burlington, ON

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That would have the same result as the SIU investigating cops. Cops investigating cops, let me guess the outcome.
dks01
join:2016-12-29
Owen Sound, ON

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said by AR:

Go with that first as a public health response measure and stop with speculation on TV and Twitter; you're a fucking Doctor, not a political talk show host on Cable.

You forget that public health MOH's are somewhat muzzled by the politicians. They have to walk a fine line.

AR

join:2000-09-21
Toronto, ON

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1. They're not in control of variant severity
2. They're not in control of creating any treatments or even new vaccines

Nothing they do will make a difference with respect to mildness or harshness of variant. Can they blunt the pandemic impact and hospitalizations....for a short time, yes. Nothing more than that.

Authority and control should be used cautiously and judiciously. Otherwise, in a free society, nobody will pay attention if your authority has become a joke. I'm a Project Manager and I've only managed software development teams but this is true in any group setting.

hlo207
join:2012-11-16
North York, ON

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And the authorities have done a varieties of things since early 2020. Some sounded good but didn't went far enough and quick enough. Other measures were nothing short of knee-jerks and looks once you look into the details. Modellings from science table have cried wolf way too many times, how can they make people believe them now unless there are literally piles of dead and dying all over the street!!!

We cannot blame DF for not ordering major rolling back towards lockdown. People could be cheering for that in Kingston city limit but probably cry foul in "not as hart hit so far" areas. That is why the local PHUs have to do it.
bjlockie
join:2007-12-16
Ontario

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said by Gone:

Omicron is going to be a live virus booster.

Hope so.
dks01
join:2016-12-29
Owen Sound, ON

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said by bjlockie:

said by Gone:

Omicron is going to be a live virus booster.

Hope so.

When Dr. Google says it shall be, it shall be.
gbwalsh
join:2010-07-25
Burlington, ON

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As opposed to any public health prediction in the past 18 months, they have been so right. /s

Quite frankly google probably has a better track record. Very sad.