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Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:15:59 EDT

hoop53 posted : This is what Minim said on Tuesday

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:51:05 EDT

dsjx posted :

said by mccabe:

Motorola MT8733 must be the voice version of MG8725. I breifly went through the manual, but didn't see any mention of LLD.
»fccid.io/2AF5PMGMT87/Use ··· -4892831

My assumption, as well. Also wondering if LLD and digital voice go hand in hand or compete, in some ways? Maybe it was more of a challenge to deploy alongside voice?

Unrelated: someone please tell CPE manufacturers to stop with the square footprint trend—They don’t fit very well in structured wiring cabinets. I hope I don’t get forced into an XB8 to get LLD first…

Not well versed in DOCSIS but have been appreciating this thread.

Once we get LLD how long until SFP+ cages are premium modem options… hmm

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 22:44:56 EDT

Dubzaim posted : »Did I just trial LLD??

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:22:39 EDT

Mike Wolf posted :

said by videomatic3:

With what looks like an arris s33 in the video

Actually upon further inspection, it looks like one of their flagship Touchstone wireless gateways, either the DG9450 »www.commscope.com/produc ··· /dg9450/ or TG9452 »www.commscope.com/produc ··· /tg9452/

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 20:42:36 EDT

Dubzaim posted : We do voice/video for work, game as a hobby (im top 500 in NA for a fps game, been getting offeres to take it more serious but i need stable internet for that) so if they sell a low latency package im surely gonna get it. I have an xb7 no splitters ethernet straight to my pc 2.5 link to 2.5 link. If the xb8 offers more stable latency ill have to try it out.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:49:16 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by Dubzaim:

I wonder how LLD will work when node is congested, right now all packets are treated equally. and 300ms ping spikes during peak hours is unusable for latency sensitive applications. We had a 6th upstream channel added last night and still getting 300ms ping spikes and dropped packets to the cmts/node

BW can be reserved for say Voice/UDP/RTP packets. So I believe Comcast will sell a Gamer plan for those who want that reserved space for gaming.

PS what type of CM/Router setup do you have?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:47:32 EDT

Dubzaim posted : I wonder how LLD will work when node is congested, right now all packets are treated equally. and 300ms ping spikes during peak hours is unusable for latency sensitive applications. We had a 6th upstream channel added last night and still getting 300ms ping spikes and dropped packets to the cmts/node

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:44:19 EDT

hardly posted :

said by EnasYorl:

»bestreviews.com/electron ··· e-modems
. . .

Their "Best Bang for the Buck" choice is a 3.0 modem.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:26:57 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by hoop53:

Yes but would that be considered "time" sensitive traffic? You know what im saying?

No here is a real world test of Fiber and Xfinity The Low Latency is a layer 2 fix of DOCSIS layer between CMTS and CM.

What is latency and what does LLD technology do to improve it?
Latency is the time it takes for data to traverse the network, usually noted in milliseconds. It should not be confused with “bandwidth” or “throughput,” which defines how much data can be sent over the network in a given period of time, usually noted in megabits per second (Mbps).

For many years, the cable broadband industry has been increasing network bandwidth to stay ahead of demand. However, for many applications, latency is now becoming more important, especially applications that are sensitive to delay, such as online gaming, web browsing, Skype and FaceTime. LLD is one of CableLabs’ latest efforts to reduce broadband network latency in order to improve the user experience for these latency-sensitive applications—though this is hardly the first latency improvement that CableLabs has developed. For example, current DOCSIS 3.1 networks already include features such as Active Queue Management (AQM) that make significant improvements in latency. LLD technology takes these efforts to the next level.

 Tracing route to one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] using  FIBER over a maximum of 30 hops:   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.0.0.  2     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  [50.46.181  FIBER OLT   3     2 ms     4 ms     2 ms  50.46.176.  4     3 ms     2 ms     3 ms  50.46.176.  5     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  64.52.97.  6     6 ms     6 ms     7 ms  107.191.236.  7     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  107.191.236.  8     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  cr2-sttlwawb-a-be-17.bb.as20055.net [107.191.236.62]  9     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  pr1-sttlwawb-c-be-12.bb.as20055.net [198.179.52.26] 10     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  six.as13335.com [206.81.81.10] 11     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] Trace complete.

 Tracing route to one.one.one.one 1.1.1.1    using CABLE MODEM over a maximum of 30 hops:   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  [10.0.0.  2     8 ms    10 ms     9 ms  96.120.60.    (NOT LOW LATENCY D3.1 MB8600) This is the CMTS IP. PS I do not believe AQM is active for me either.    3     9 ms     8 ms    19 ms  [162.151.214.  4    10 ms     7 ms     7 ms  96.216.158.  5    10 ms     8 ms    21 ms  96.216.158.  6    16 ms    12 ms    12 ms  be-36241-cs04.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.93.61]  7    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  be-2412-pe12.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [96.110.34.142]  8    14 ms    17 ms    11 ms  50.208.235.222  9    12 ms    12 ms    22 ms  one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] Trace complete.

»www.cablelabs.com/techno ··· y-docsis

Low Latency Is Here, Not a Second Too Late
From gamers to medical patients to everyday internet users, customers are seeking real-time control over their applications-without choppiness, freezing or other latency issues that won't be improved by simply adding more bandwidth. CableLabs' Low Latency DOCSIS (LLD) technology is a new approach that targets a reduction in round-trip latency in the DOCSIS network to sub-5 ms at the 99th percentile for non-queue building applications. This enhancement to cable broadband will ensure that web pages load faster, video calling is smooth and online gaming is highly responsive.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:23:05 EDT

hoop53 posted : Yes but would that be considered "time" sensitive traffic? You know what im saying?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:21:07 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by hoop53:

Yeah I just don’t know how anyone could confirm it is currently running. I have an MB8611 so same category as that S33.

Run a tracert (traceroute) see if the first hop or too has reduced lag.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:13:11 EDT

hoop53 posted : Yeah I just don’t know how anyone could confirm it is currently running. I have an MB8611 so same category as that S33.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:12:45 EDT

EnasYorl posted : »bestreviews.com/electron ··· e-modems
Hopefully yours isn't one that fails after a few months of use.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:03:45 EDT

SpottedCat posted : I have an Arris S33, so basically one of the latest 3.1 modems.

Hopefully that means it's fully supported!

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:22:29 EDT

hoop53 posted : What modem do you have? Xfinity support was not only able to get info (which they haven't been able to tell you anything about low latency docsis) but they are saying it is currently deployed?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 13 Feb 2022 14:02:07 EDT

Dubzaim posted : would be amazing if lld was out now, if its just a software update supported by equipment xfinity already has out in the field I wonder whats stopping them? It would solve so many complaints from people who suffer while using latency sensitive applications during peak hours or high congestion

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:19:37 EDT

SpottedCat posted : I wonder if they're already working on it.

I was playing Quake 3 Arena this morning (yeah, I'm old-school) on a server I usually frequent and my ping was 6ms for the first time ever. It's usually 9 to 10ms. Nothing has changed; server is still hosted on the same network and the traceroute looks the same. Also oddly enough, pinging the server still shows 10-12ms round trip while my game is showing 6, which suggests that my UDP game packets are receiving "special treatment", possibly in a low latency queue?

I'm going to keep track of my ping over the next few days and see if stays low. But 6ms is amazing not not something I've seen on a cable connection ever before.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Tue, 01 Feb 2022 01:02:11 EDT

Franken posted : The operator can make custom rules, if the upper layer doesn't support it. ICMP would be a strong candidate for such a rule.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:24:50 EDT

videomatic3 posted :

said by Anon46428 :

What would people’s guess be on how many more low latency queues\apps you could have in that scenario before you start experiencing congestion as apposed to conventional queues and apps? My guess is 10x just because low latency apps generally don’t queue buffer large buffers and don’t generally use large amounts of bandwidth..

Pgs will always make sure there's send requests available
Diminishing returns at 3mbit overhead. Im assuming it'll be 3mbit+ whatever you're using

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:55:03 EDT

lesmikesell posted :

said by Franken:

No, it is a two-way thing. If the modem sees the tag, it will put the packet in the upstream LL queue. If the CMTS sees the tag, it will put the packet in the downstream LL queue.

The modem protects the queue upstream, and the CMTS protects the queue downstream.

But the same packet doesn't come back in a round trip ping test. Does that mean there would be a special LL-ping type test that would respond with a tagged packet?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:41:30 EDT

mixdup posted :

said by Anon46428 :

Totally going to depend on how it's all configured. I haven't gotten into the LLD documentation as deep as some others around here, but on a per-channel basis there's going to be a maximum amount of time they can dedicate to low latency traffic, since it's based on time, not bandwidth (at least in a QAM setup, OFDMA may be different)

I would assume that the wildcard factor will be how many upload channels you're bonded to, how many of them have LLD enabled, and how much of the time on each is available to the LLD queue vs. the "bulk" queue

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:28:14 EDT

anon posted : What would people’s guess be on how many more low latency queues\apps you could have in that scenario before you start experiencing congestion as apposed to conventional queues and apps? My guess is 10x just because low latency apps generally don’t queue buffer large buffers and don’t generally use large amounts of bandwidth..

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:05:09 EDT

Franken posted : No, it is a two-way thing. If the modem sees the tag, it will put the packet in the upstream LL queue. If the CMTS sees the tag, it will put the packet in the downstream LL queue.

The modem protects the queue upstream, and the CMTS protects the queue downstream.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:46:38 EDT

lesmikesell posted :

said by Franken:

Everybody can use the low latency queue. There is only one requirement: The application must not send data at a rate that builds a queue in the modem/CMTS. If the application tags the packets and builds a queue anyway, the packets will be caught and redirected to the classic queue.

I can see that helping with the controller commands in gaming, but not so much for video conferencing.

We usually measure latency with round trip pings, though. Is this just a one-hop one-way thing?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 08:58:43 EDT

mixdup posted :

said by Anon46428 :

Ok thank you for clearing that up, I was thinking hypothetically if a node served 500 homes and all of them were watching 4K movies/Netflix at the same time if ping times between customers and the node would be different if they were all video conferencing or gaming instead as it’s not as bandwidth heavy.. but I think I understand now

Well, in a LLD situation, and all of those customers' traffic were marked as being low-latency, then that could affect the network, because that is a QoS queue. You could use up all the "low latency" time and then things kind of fall back to "non" low latency, for lack of a better word. So, in that case there is a limit to how much low latency traffic can be explicitly low latency before it just gets dumped into the general lane of traffic

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 05:07:19 EDT

Franken posted : The CMTS will not prioritize your low latency traffic over your neighbors regular traffic. Two things:

1) You will be using two queues (service flows) instead of one, so your low latency packets won't get queued up behind your own bulk transfers.

2) Proactive grant service (PGS) is used to skip the process of asking for bandwidth (request-grant) for some of the low latency packets. If the modem needs grants beyond this offering, it must use the regular ways of asking.

The CMTS is free to proactively send grants to other traffic, if it sees a need for it. This part is not really LLD, just a feature of the scheduler.

Everybody can use the low latency queue. There is only one requirement: The application must not send data at a rate that builds a queue in the modem/CMTS. If the application tags the packets and builds a queue anyway, the packets will be caught and redirected to the classic queue.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 20:20:32 EDT

anon posted : Ok thank you for clearing that up, I was thinking hypothetically if a node served 500 homes and all of them were watching 4K movies/Netflix at the same time if ping times between customers and the node would be different if they were all video conferencing or gaming instead as it’s not as bandwidth heavy.. but I think I understand now

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 20:13:28 EDT

mixdup posted :

said by Anon46428 :

How much does gaming/video conferencing and other latency sensitive applications contribute to congestion/latency variation in the network?

The fact that an application is sensitive to latency doesn't really have anything to do with how that application's traffic impacts the network. What impacts congestion and latency on the network is mostly the volume of traffic, period

That is, if the network doesn't have any QoS in place. If QoS is in place, then the volume of traffic per QoS category impacts other traffic in that queue, as it has a limit just like the overall network does

But, absent some kind of QoS system, traffic from application A has the same impact as traffic from application B, regardless of how sensitive those applications are to jitter/latency. The jitter/latency impacts the application, not the other way around

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 20:04:37 EDT

anon posted : How much does gaming/video conferencing and other latency sensitive applications contribute to congestion/latency variation in the network?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 11:03:17 EDT

lesmikesell posted :

said by EnasYorl:

You do understand that QOS and packet flagging only matter when the BW has hit max limits. As long as you manage capacity then the flags/tags are minutiae.

I do. But there are people on here complaining about not being able to run their cloud backups fast enough to suit them, or upload their edited videos to work. Do you think they'll care about their neighbor's kid playing a game? My point is that if it is something an end user or application can control, they will set it to give themselves the most benefit. Plus, daytime upstream congestion is probably going to all be video conferencing and all tagged the same.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:56:13 EDT

mixdup posted : Jitter is a measure of the change in ping over time. So, if your ping is consistently 250ms, then jitter is low. If it's bouncing around 250, 100, 350, 250, 500, 250, 250 then jitter is high

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 06:08:25 EDT

Kearnstd posted : so what is jitter and how does it impact anything? I have played MMOs over cable since I have had broadband almost(short time on unreliable SBC DSL). And actions in game were always instant(Traditional MMORPGs are a client-server system meaning any major latency you will see a notable delay from button push to action in game).

havent seen buffering on video either, even when using the app on my TV which lets me get Netflix and Disney+ in 4k.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:58:45 EDT

Mike Wolf posted : Of course, it’s their flagship modem at the moment.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:52:50 EDT

anon posted : I wonder if any consumers have tested lld on comscope’s network yet and how it feels to game/video chat on it and what actual ping/jitter times are like in an actual residential consumer environment. If anyone finds reviews please let me know

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sun, 30 Jan 2022 01:17:05 EDT

videomatic3 posted : With what looks like an arris s33 in the video

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 23:43:19 EDT

Mike Wolf posted : Interesting video from Arris/Commscope about LLD

»youtu.be/-ALE2OBidgs

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:34:42 EDT

wierdo posted :

said by lesmikesell:

If anything can set its own QoS value and it applies against other peoples settings, why would anyone settle for less than the highest priority? My movie is more important to me than your video game.

Tagging bulk traffic as high priority will degrade your own experience. Besides, it's pretty irrelevant on the downstream side anyway. Most nodes don't have downstream congestion

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:25:33 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by lesmikesell:

said by EnasYorl:

said by lesmikesell:

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If anything can set its own QoS value and it applies against other peoples settings, why would anyone settle for less than the highest priority? My movie is more important to me than your video game.

Video streams buffer, UDP packets of Gaming is Real time. Video is way easier to deliver then it was 10 years ago. Allot has changed in that space.

I understand that, but my point is that 'my' packets will always be more important to me than your games are. If I can control the priority settings that work into the shared bandwidth, mine will always be the highest.

You do understand that QOS and packet flagging only matter when the BW has hit max limits. As long as you manage capacity then the flags/tags are minutiae.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 22:23:28 EDT

lesmikesell posted :

said by EnasYorl:

said by lesmikesell:

Video streams buffer, UDP packets of Gaming is Real time. Video is way easier to deliver then it was 10 years ago. Allot has changed in that space.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 20:38:04 EDT

Mike Wolf posted : Yup. More efficient video codecs and better optimized compression are doing wonders in that respect.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 20:04:08 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by lesmikesell:

Video streams buffer, UDP packets of Gaming is Real time. Video is way easier to deliver then it was 10 years ago. Allot has changed in that space.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 15:00:01 EDT

lesmikesell posted :

said by Anon580d7 :

"Gaming" routers typically include extensive QoS settings to insure that the various DSCP values are appropriately set and acted upon based on app requirements, and even non-gaming routers often support some basic QoS settings. And I have seen a fair number of routers/gateways that just ignore the values and pass them along unchanged (although some will also strip them), so I don't think it is out of the question that a future Teams/Meet/Zoom app might not mark their packets appropriately (DSCP class EF for (at least) the voice traffic?) if it had a positive result (if they do not already do so; I have no idea about those apps in particular, but I have seem some other apps set DSCP values in their packets). And I can almost see the marketing for a "Teams Optimized" router.

If anything can set its own QoS value and it applies against other peoples settings, why would anyone settle for less than the highest priority? My movie is more important to me than your video game.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:15:38 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by Anoncd711 :

said by EnasYorl:

True, but Low Latency DOCSIS for Gamers is the goal.

Perhaps that is your goal. The goal to the operator is typically increasing revenue, and knowing whom to squeeze for that revenue. Gamers are an easily identified target for the marketing campaign for that revenue.

»www.xfinity.com/hub/inte ··· internet

$180Billion a year + industry. Who pays for the highest priced PC's? Who pays for the fastest Internet Tiers. Who demands low latency? Xfinity's goals for low latency target WHO again? How are networks upgraded? With Revenues!

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 13:39:12 EDT

anon posted :

said by EnasYorl:

True, but Low Latency DOCSIS for Gamers is the goal.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 13:31:48 EDT

anon posted :

said by Utensil:

I went through the IETF document linked in the thread. Am I understanding right that the modem sends frames on the low latency queue based on the DiffServ value?

How is that going to work in practice for normal users. I'm skeptical that some Teams voice call on a Mac connected over Wifi through a router is going to have the DiffServ value set right by the time it makes it to the modem. That's if an application even sets it (or can set it) in the first place. Section 6.2 kinda touches on that problem with no solution.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 13:22:17 EDT

anon posted : It’s funny, our node is congested and every night during peak hours my pink spikes consistently to 200ms-400ms.. then I read that Cc turned on aqm and thought to myself damn maybe they forgot to turn it on for us.. I’m only now learning about networking and how docsis works so I’m not sure how much aqm or lld will help with time sensitive apps in an oversubscribed node but I have had my hopes up that Cc will do a node split eventually.. I mean it’s been a year already.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 11:40:35 EDT

EnasYorl posted :

said by DarkLogix:

said by cypherstream:

Good to know my SB8200 modem is not obsolete... yet...

Well it doesn't have a 2.5G port so...

True, but Low Latency DOCSIS for Gamers is the goal. The 2.5G port only matters for Bandwidth for the most part. Shaving off that 10ms Layer 2 delay is huge.

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Sat, 29 Jan 2022 00:13:39 EDT

BigOil posted :

said by Utensil:

All of the focus VERY low latency misses the point to me...yeah it's good for some customers/applications BUT with the new & very recent full implementation of AQM on 3.1 comcast and approved COAM modems... I think things like Teams are not going to have a problem in most scenarios the data shows that. No not low latency but you're gonna be keeping your pipe at something like 10 to 20 ms before hitting the routing work out of Comcast.

So yes for gaming and VoIP if the packets are tagged correctly then yeah LLD will help. But even if Teams misses the LLD que due to packed ID stuffs... You still got a like 200 ms or better budget for latency 10-20 ms no bloat is fine at MVNO the including the routing will be at budget....so only the unfortunates in the 99 percentile of "AQM not helping" will suffer.

That's a long-winded way of speculating Cc recently "fixed things good enough" via AQM to avoid having to giving up U/S bandwidth or fees for LLD or making LLD a top priority////. we'll see

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:37:32 EDT

Utensil posted : I went through the IETF document linked in the thread. Am I understanding right that the modem sends frames on the low latency queue based on the DiffServ value?

How is that going to work in practice for normal users. I'm skeptical that some Teams voice call on a Mac connected over Wifi through a router is going to have the DiffServ value set right by the time it makes it to the modem. That's if an application even sets it (or can set it) in the first place. Section 6.2 kinda touches on that problem with no solution.

So maybe Comcast's provided router will try to identify flows that look like candidates for low latency on its own, and set the DiffServ value for them?

Re: [DOCSIS] Any news on Low Latency Docsis

Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:52:12 EDT

Mike Wolf posted : It’s interesting but I’m not too keen on a software client being installed on my modem. Seems like it’s just something else to glitch or get hacked or break.