wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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2022-Feb-14 12:30 am
[Equip] Does this explain why my speeds are so slow?Xfinity did some upgrading in the area. When the lights came back on, they really bumped the speed on the old DOCSIS 3.0 modem, pretty much to the limit it could handle. I got excited and on a lark found I was eligible for up to 1Gb service. (W00t!) For $10 more than what I was already paying for, I could get 600Mb/20Mb and started the checkout procedure. I failed the modem check before you purchase, it was just too outdated. I found a great deal at local store for an Arris SB8200. The walled garden is no more, you have to use the Xfinity App from a smart phone to get the modem up and installed. That took 5 minutes, no biggie. I got all excited again and boosted up to the 600Mb/20mb plan. I check out my cart, get my confirmation e-mail and the SB8200 reboots. Once back online I did a direct wired speed test via gigabit Ethernet and a brand new CAT6e cable aaaaannnnnnndddd..... My upstream is dead on fast @20Mb, the download, not so much. The best it pulls is 50% of my 600Mb speed tier. I go nosing in the modem's event log and find these lines you see above. *Thinking* it's a provisioning problem, I give Xfinity a call. They can't figure it out, had to authorize overrides, but ultimately had a great cozy chat with 2 lvl-3 techs and appointments for two truck rolls. One for the plant management, the other for a house tech to come investigate the stuff around/in the house. Color me stupid, but am I off the mark by thinking this is a provisioning problem? The two techs attempted to re-provision twice, and it wouldn't stick. I'm not convinced a truck roll will do it. What say you all? |
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DocDrewRF Medic Premium Member join:2009-01-28 dv streaming |
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2022-Feb-14 12:32 am
Post the modem signal levels? |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL 1 edit |
wolfox
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2022-Feb-14 12:39 am
Here you go. I think they look in spec...what do I know? EDIT: The one downstream OFDM channel that's pushed to the far end of my sub-600MHz system has error counts that just keep rising and rising now - that I bothered to look. Between that and failed software download, I'm starting to think is my problem. |
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pclover join:2008-08-02 Santa Cruz, CA |
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Unfortunately, Since it's a modem they didn't provide they'll likely refuse to assist your any further and say your modem is defective and that your signal levels are fine.
Hopefully they wont but there is a good chance of this. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
wolfox
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2022-Feb-14 12:53 am
Precisely why the two techs I spoke to had to get supervisor overrides for the service visits. They both admitted that their software wanted to boot the complaint when "Customer Supplied Equipment" started to enter the picture.  |
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pclover join:2008-08-02 Santa Cruz, CA |
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2022-Feb-14 12:56 am
said by wolfox:Precisely why the two techs I spoke to had to get supervisor overrides for the service visits. They both admitted that their software wanted to boot the complaint when "Customer Supplied Equipment" started to enter the picture.  Yep, this is typical of Comcast. They'll find any reason to pass the puck and not take responsibility especially with customer owned equipment. Personally, I would rent their own gateway for a month and see if the issues are still present with download speed. It will cost you a few dollars but yeah. It looks like with that error the modem is failing to do a firmware update. It may have failed once and upgraded again. If you reboot the modem does it show up again? |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
wolfox
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2022-Feb-14 1:00 am
*LAUGH* This is starting to sound like movie titles for those old spaghetti westerns.
"Shootout At Not-so-OK MODEM Corral" "The Good, The Bad, The Xfinity" "For A Fistful Of Dollars More" ...
I'll stop right there. |
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pclover join:2008-08-02 Santa Cruz, CA |
said by wolfox:*LAUGH* This is starting to sound like movie titles for those old spaghetti westerns.
"Shootout At Not-so-OK MODEM Corral" "The Good, The Bad, The Xfinity" "For A Fistful Of Dollars More" ...
I'll stop right there. EDIT: Nevermind I thought you had gigabit. Your not testing on wifi are you? Sorry tired |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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2022-Feb-14 1:20 am
It's all good man. 👍 Naw, I did all speed testing raw, off the modem -> Cat6e cable fresh from pack -> PC 1000mb ethernet. I tested with 3 cables just to be sure. Both ethernet ports show 1gb link speed. |
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DocDrewRF Medic Premium Member join:2009-01-28 dv streaming |
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OFDM channel correctable errors are not a problem.
Your signal levels look like you're on a direct coax line with no splitters. SNR and no errors on QAM channels indicate levels are fine. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
wolfox
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2022-Feb-14 1:34 am
said by DocDrew:OFDM channel correctable errors are not a problem.
Your signal levels look like you're on a direct coax line with no splitters. SNR and no errors on QAM channels indicate levels are fine. You are correct sir. It's a home run from the demarc. Nothing else. |
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wolfox
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2022-Feb-14 2:12 pm
Well, this was an experience in futility so far.
I just got a call from an overseas operator that entirely tried to blame the modem. Then tried to get me to plug and unplug everything to make direct wired tests. I explained that the phone call will immediately drop because all of my cellphone services go through a Microcell or rely on Wi-Fi and VoIP...which is piped through the Xfinity modem. Which is still stuck slug slow due to provision errors. My signals are clear and strong, zero noise, errors, drops, etc. It works, just not at the speed I'm paying for. No, you have the wrong modem.
How, when there are millions of these things in operation in Xfinity's network?
He then blamed my router. Then he blamed my Wi-Fi. I rebuffed and proved otherwise each time.
**Speak & Spell** Wrong, try again.
Then I was testing all wrong because I didn't have Chrome on anything but wireless Droids. He couldn't accept any test result in Chrome in Wi-Fi only Androids, despite them blasting each other happily @ 1.3Gb/sec. Firefox on PC that's hardwired isn't good enough apparently. I then tried to explain I could just use MS Edge, as that is Chromium based. Then he couldn't understand how I can get 960MB/s transfer in my INTRANET between wired & wireless devices all day as they all link up Via 802.11Ax when I only pay for 600Mb Xfinity service. Trying to explain that difference, I got hung up on. Dude, *you* called ME and tried to tutor me based on your script? SRSLY?
I think it's time to explore Comcast Direct. :/
Gentlemen, thanks for your ears and attention to any details. Peace to all. |
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Your signals are pristine. Don't let them send a tech, that's a complete waste of time. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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2022-Feb-14 4:12 pm
Agreed. The physical plant truck roll on Wednesday I have no control over. I figure to just let those boyz roll and do what they do best. I may still cancel my Thursday Home Tech visit, but...
The masochist and sadist in me wants to see what happens when he tries to push an Xfinity Xx-whatever gateway on me. Overseas tech was HOT to lease me one on account that minute.
No, thank you.
*starts reading the advantages of an XfinityGateway, verbatim from his screen*
No means no, bro.
*But siiiiir* He's whining now.
No, please. Thank you.
Like watching a puppy nipping at it's own tail at that point. |
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pclover join:2008-08-02 Santa Cruz, CA |
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said by wolfox:Well, this was an experience in futility so far.
I just got a call from an overseas operator that entirely tried to blame the modem. Then tried to get me to plug and unplug everything to make direct wired tests. I explained that the phone call will immediately drop because all of my cellphone services go through a Microcell or rely on Wi-Fi and VoIP...which is piped through the Xfinity modem. Which is still stuck slug slow due to provision errors. My signals are clear and strong, zero noise, errors, drops, etc. It works, just not at the speed I'm paying for. No, you have the wrong modem. Typical Comcast as I mentioned before. You were probably talking to the lowest bidder contract support person. The only way to start to get real support from Comcast these days is a FCC complaint otherwise you'll go nowhere. Even then that's not enough and you might have to escalate it further. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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2022-Feb-14 6:31 pm
They'll sort it fast I think. My account's usage meter has been frozen since the install. An audit will eventually catch it, but I did the right thing and contacted Comcast Direct with a complaint and a link to this thread.
@ComcastGino - like 5 or so years back got my network clicking like clockwork for the asking. He's a right, good man. I hope he picks up the case again. |
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PaulGo join:2005-01-29 Gaithersburg, MD |
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When Comcast came to my house because of low download speed (it went from 480 to 50) they tested the speed with their equipment both at the outside box and at the cable connecting to my modem. They verified the low speed. First they replaced the underground cable going to my house. They then replaced the underground cable on my lawn. Both did not help. The finally traced it to a defective board at the node. I was the only one of over 100 houses that that this problem that reported this. |
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Does your modem list the boot file? (My TPLink does, not sure about the Arris). I would keep your tech appointment. The call center does not have the capability to dispatch a maintenance/plant technician. The only way to get the ball rolling with anything is with an in house tech coming out first. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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Yuppers. That's why I'm not concerned with plant management rolling trucks and checking for interference and the like. I'm going to cancel the house tech visit. |
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Yes it does, and it's untouched from the moment it left the factory floor. But I send Comcast Direct a snapshot of the Bootfile and software version file(s). I'll let them handle it....
.....while I stream movie watch my tail off. :> All you can eat, carte blanche, free unlimited Internet until they fix it. My meter is still stuck.
I spoke with level3 on Sunday afternoon, I got plugged into them when the first tech disconnected my call when the MODEM rebooted. I got turboed into the real cheeze. The lady was a rock star and scheduled the plant techs and the home visit after getting authorization to override.
But I've been swamped with random overseas agents now, all trying to sell me an Xfinity Gateway router/AP. Seriously, now - FEK OFF! |
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said by wolfox:Yuppers. That's why I'm not concerned with plant management rolling trucks and checking for interference and the like. I'm going to cancel the house tech visit. I'm saying don't cancel the in house tech visit. Maintenance won't check anything without a visit from a house tech. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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2022-Feb-14 10:54 pm
They're rolling on Wednesday. A House tech visit is on Thursday, following. Now that's funny. Lefty doesn't know one bit what Righty is doing.  No...wait... It's expected. |
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They likely keyed an SRO (special request order) for an In house tech to "check outside" on Wednesday, and then keyed a trouble call for Thursday for the tech to come in and actually troubleshoot. |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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2022-Feb-15 3:00 pm
Oooookay, that makes perfect sense now. Thanks. I'll just let the whole experience ride for now. |
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2022-Feb-15 11:05 pm
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Just checking what speed test site were you using? Suggest trying the closest Comcast test site at speeedtest.xfinity.com |
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Agreed. It’s definitely running an old firmware version. What’s interesting is that if that’s a new SB8200 it shouldn’t have a firmware version that old. Judging by the screenshot in the OP it has a copyright of 2016. I’ve done a ton of SB8200 installs lately and they’ve all come with much newer firmware out of the box. |
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Some of those channels are a little hotter then I’d prefer. They might need to put something to tamp that downstream power level down. The ideal is as close to 0dB as possible. Have you attempted a factory reset on the modem? Where did you get the SB8200? Is it new or secondhand from someone? |
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wolfoxGentle Wolfox join:2002-11-27 Dunnellon, FL |
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Done and done as close as I could get it in Naples FL. |
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ComcastGeno confirmed I now have the latest flash and provisioning. Now we sit on our hands until plant and home tech sweep the home. He's on the case but I think he's also waiting to see what the field technicians find.
Edit: Yeah, I paperclip reset it for 30 seconds after getting updated firmware flash. Still no luck. Stuck at a weird hybrid of 400/20mb/sec. |
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No, out of the box new from Sunday, Walmart. Not an open box return.
I hope the plant techs and home visit lay premises equipment and cable to rest.
I'm thinking though, maybe a little hot, but within +- 15 dBmv, all is peachy?
I'm showing a provisioning glitch still. The web portal and Xfinity app says I have 600/20Mb service. The "My Xfinity" app says I've got Blast! 400/10. My money is on some backend service gone borken. |
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