AT&T Broadband → AT&T and Worldcom

I'm sure a few of you have heard that Worldcom had their books on the barbecue and they were well done. They were overcooked in fact. So a few related questions if I may.

Does AT&T use UUNET at all? Do they have their own self-contained connection to the global internet? For example, BellSouth uses UUNET in some fashion for their ISP. I'm sure other ISPs still do as well.

Are we as AT&T users shielded from this situation? We've already gone through one bankruptcy/shutdown and for those of us addicted to the internet, it was hell for 8 days before the connection came back.

This is news to me! I haven't heard anything about AT&T using UUNET. I highly doubt anything about worldcom's demise will truly affect use.

I would love to see some responses and updates about this.

said by XninjajuggaloX:

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I haven't heard anything about AT&T using UUNET.

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Me either. I was just curious if AT&T has much, if any, exposure.

CNBC and CNNFN keep talking about network equipment manufacturers and banks. One did say something about MCI and UUNET which made me wonder. I do know that BellSouth does use UUNET for their ISP. I seem to remember others doing that as well.

I am not sure about recently, but out here when At&t was operating under mediaone express here in chicago (owned by tci until att bought tci out here) they did use worldcom as a backbone, along with exodus and some others (like bbnplanet who was gte networking or something, who i think is now worldcom). And they continued to use those backbones for a short time with @home because @home's network was operating really slow, they did not have the oc192 from att yet. One time in oak Brook, illinois. A Construction crew accidently sliced the fiber outside the worldcom center. Cutting off all network services for At&t Broadband (back then named At&t Cable, At&t Mediaone Express, the list goes on). It cut off the telephones for a long while, and it cut off the internet for all mediaone subscribers. The only thing they could get access to was www.ce.medioane.net, the mail server, and the newsgroup server, all based in the chicago area not using worldcom. Anybody who had mediaone express a few years ago might remember that. Not to mention the horrible upgrade campaign in the romeoville area, it knocked them offline for as long as a few weeks. LoL

Well i just wrote this nice little thing explaining my reasons but then IE froze..... so i'm not writing it again ATTBI relies exclusively on ATT's national network for connectivity.. The only interactions with other networks is with peering... Trust me

NO, not true at all. ATT has a ton of circuits provided by Genuity, etc. They use to order 10 or so DS3's and OC3's from Geunity every month. Im not sure exactly what they do now, but lots of those had 5 and 10 yr contracts attached. Just remember in your trace routes, you are only seeing what someone put in dns, this has no relationship to who the carrier is that provided the circuit...

shoot! thats a freakin good point! not thinking on my part!!! was thinking more from my computer to my head end and backbones..... didn't even think about head end to the POP on the network..

That's not good. I'm pretty sure AT&T service around here uses UUNET sometimes.

Woah, in neotracing the path to dslr, it looks as if it doesn't go through Chicago like all my other traffic I've noticed. It looks like it goes on AT&T all the way to a little past Washington D.C., and then goes to Williams.

Back when I was on MSN dial-up, UUNET would show up on my tracerts.

Yeah, MSN uses UUNET. I think it uses UUNET's pops too.

Although it looks like a lot of routes are through verio now.