Topic 'Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait' in forum 'Graphics' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5418037 en Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:08:12 EDT Sat, 26 Mar 2022 14:08:12 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5429565 --
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5429565 Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:24:24 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5429090 said by skj:
BTW, you have a nice looking family :)
Thank you, I think so too!

We decided to print the one that ChrisXP did. I love what he did with all of the eyes. Truthfully, there wasn't a huge difference with the two children sitting, but he did a miracle on the standing child. He has narrower eyes and it was extremely difficult to get out all of the red eye. I must learn how to superimpose as well as he can.

Merry Christmas to all at DSLR, thanks for the help!
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take a break you post to much .lolololol (joke)

I only have you by 60 posts, you can catch up in no time. By the way, I love your avatar ... good work.;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5429056 Tue, 24 Dec 2002 15:25:39 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5424711
Very nice pictures BTW. :D
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Thanks for all of your hard work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5424320 Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:50:24 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5422793
I used the eye color examples and actually superimposed their own eyes onto to portrait (a lot of cut, resize, paste, erase and blending involved -- one reason I like ImageStyler is because I can resize the images "on the fly", and get exact sizes). This way the eyes are actually their own, not our idea how they look behind the red-eye distortion.

Since I read you like the lint removed it's also off the green sweater.

Color corrected the photo to eliminated the incandescent yellow glow, so now the millwork and the white bands on the standing boy's sweater actually look white. Color enhanced the photo to restore some flesh color, and liven up the fire.

Take a close look (and I mean magnify the photo) and see how the eyes fair with you.

Had to compress the photo to upload it.
Hope you like it. :)

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5422793 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:02:34 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421895 said by skj:
said by cookeys:
Maybe he only has a certain amount of bandwidth per hour or day or week, and all of us looking at the images has caused the limit to be exceeded.


Ok, thanks- didn't know if it had something to do on my end or his.
I think it's his end. I get the same message, and I've seen that messages other places too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421895 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:48:37 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421874 said by cookeys:
Maybe he only has a certain amount of bandwidth per hour or day or week, and all of us looking at the images has caused the limit to be exceeded.


Ok, thanks- didn't know if it had something to do on my end
or his.

said by Searchname:
Here it is again, I guess Bellsouth is limiting bandwidth too. I hate their new system. I might change ISP's soon.


Have Earthlink here. Don't know if they do the same thing. BTW, you have a nice looking family :)
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When I click on the photo links I get Access Denied. Bandwidth limit exceeded . Anybody know why?
Maybe he only has a certain amount of bandwidth per hour or day or week, and all of us looking at the images has caused the limit to be exceeded.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421804 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:40:09 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421799 --
www3.sympatico.ca/e..lajoie]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421799 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:39:47 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421785 Access Denied. Bandwidth limit exceeded . Anybody know why?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421785 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:38:30 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421733 said by Searchname:
How do you post the preview like you guys did earlier? Just curious when I click {img} address {/img}, the img is in it's full size.
We're actually uploading our pictures to DSLR. It automatically puts it in that size when the image is too big, I believe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421733 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:33:47 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421727 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421727 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:32:49 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421655 said by Searchname:
Here is my final one, if anything obvious jumps out at you ... please let me know. Here's what I did:

I, obviously, removed the red eye, but I also removed some lint from my son's sweater and removed some light flashes in the boys eyes. We had four light sources, including the camera's flash. I removed all of them, except the camera's flash. Then I softened the picture a little and added a little redness. With help from the examples I saw on this site, I think this version is MUCH better than my original "finalized" version. ;)

HERE IT IS!
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Very nice work! Looks like you got it. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421655 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:26:43 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5421627
I, obviously, removed the red eye, but I also removed some lint from my son's sweater and removed some light flashes in the boys eyes. We had four light sources, including the camera's flash. I removed all of them, except the camera's flash. Then I softened the picture a little and added a little redness. With help from the examples I saw on this site, I think this version is MUCH better than my original "finalized" version. ;)

HERE IT IS!
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Here is the new pic, reduced to 1024x768

This is the same pic, but unscaled! (2.91MB)
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Thanks for the attempt. I'm working on the 2MB version of the pic. I figure it will give a better printout, if I ever make it to Wolf Camera.;)
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Standing, Back

Sitting, Left

Sitting, Right

Now, when I say RT and Left, I am meaning to your Rt and Left.
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I'm by no means an expert at redeye removal, but I almost always use the blur tool to blur around the pupil a bit after changing the colors of the pupils. It removes any rough edges.

Edit: Oh, and I feel that I should say that the majority of my red eye removal experience is with cats, not people. Unless you consider cats to be furry little people, like I do... ;)
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Thanks for the replies!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5418358 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:02:24 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5418340
The 3rd photo doesn't show.

The 2nd photo doesn't look real, so hopefully the Gaussian blur helped.

In situations like this I tend to manually edit the pupil and use a soften brush (usually at 10%) to soften the edges so it will blend into the iris. On smaller photos the rods of the eye won't be missed. On a photo where it can be seen, it's much more difficult.

PSP 7 has a feature to remove the red-eye, but it's color coded and doesn't match the original eye color. For realism manual editing is essential.

CXP
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Only issue iI can see is that with psp, the redeye fixer uses a "preset" eye in replacing the color right? How close is the match to the actual eye? When looking at photos of someone known well, a misconstrued eye would stand out quite a bit.


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Nevermind on the third picture link.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5418286 Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:55:16 EDT Re: Would like your opinions on a family portrait http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Would-like-your-opinions-on-a-family-portrait-5418261
Here is a recent thread where we discussed removing red eye that might interest you: »how to fix red eye in PS ?
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This is the Original Photo. It was taken w/ a Canon G2 in JPG format at the highest settings. The Aperture was set at 100 to give the fire a somewhat blurry effect. We tried a lower aperture setting but the kids couldn't be still enough and they ended up blurry themselves. ;)

With this picture I used Photoshop 7 to remove the Red Eye and also remove the points of lights in the eyes that was caused by additional lighting in the room. I tried using Photoshop Elements "Red Eye Tool", but it just made their eyes Grey. So, I used Photoshop 7's "Elliptical Marquee Tool" to select the entire eye, remove the red and then use it again to select the pupil and turn it blackish.

This is the same picture as the "Red Eye Removed" picture (above), but this one has had a softening effect applied. Here, I applied Gaussian Blur (4 pixels). Then, I faded the Gaussian Blur opacity to about 25%. Next, I played around with the "Unsharp Mask" settings, I believe I used (Amount=100, Radius=4, Threshold=10). Finally, I changed the Hue "Saturation" to +10.

I basically want to know which you would choose out of the 2nd and 3rd. I included the first, for comparisons sake and for you to toy with in case I royally screwed it up. Thanks for the help!

PS - Here is the Actual Original Photo, be warned ... it is large (2.04 MB).
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