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momohammed20
Mo
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join:2002-01-12
Munster, IN

momohammed20 to unkyjoe0

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Re: Say What

said by unkyjoe0:
Palestinians - American Indians - its the American way, if they wont go force them onto reservations!

Those in power posses, way of the world folks! Just ask us here in the good old USofA.

He who has the gold rules, with PTP maybe the Palestinians will get some of the gold, force the bad apples out and learn to live in peace with the Jews I for one hope so!
hehe lol ive been to israel ok and let me tell you what ive seen and believe me ive seen it the israelis treat palestinians like shit maybe thats why us palestinians cant live with them

insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

insomniac84

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said by momohammed20:
hehe lol ive been to israel ok and let me tell you what ive seen and believe me ive seen it the israelis treat palestinians like shit maybe thats why us palestinians cant live with them
When you can't feel safe shopping or taking a bus ride, your not going to like the source of the terror. It seems 100% of the terror is coming out of palestine. If the palestinian people can't stop the bad people among them, then why do they feel they should have the respect of anyone?

momohammed20
Mo
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join:2002-01-12
Munster, IN

momohammed20

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said by insomniac84:
said by momohammed20:
hehe lol ive been to israel ok and let me tell you what ive seen and believe me ive seen it the israelis treat palestinians like shit maybe thats why us palestinians cant live with them
When you can't feel safe shopping or taking a bus ride, your not going to like the source of the terror. It seems 100% of the terror is coming out of palestine. If the palestinian people can't stop the bad people among them, then why do they feel they should have the respect of anyone?
you know what, before you say anything go to israel and see how its like, then come back to me and talk about it, ok you obviously dont know what you are saying you should shutup before you make a fool out of yourself

thanks

jingjong
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jingjong to insomniac84

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to insomniac84
Are you out of your mind! You are occupying other country and expect the people there to shut up and let you do what you want to do with them. The jews were under occupation for 8 years and still crying about it. Palestinians are under occupation since jewish invasion in 1967! Do the math and let me know how would you feel if you were in their shoes? They have to stand up and fight for their land, just like Europe did durring WW1 and WW2.History will repeat its self.

momohammed20
Mo
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join:2002-01-12
Munster, IN

momohammed20

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thank you jingjong

ravital
Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter
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join:2001-07-19
Merrimack, NH

ravital to jingjong

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said by jingjong:
Are you out of your mind! You are occupying other country and expect the people there to shut up and let you do what you want to do with them.
You're quite right of course, the right to resist occupation is quite clear here. However, the targets of the terror are not only in the territories, but also in Tel-Aviv, and that is NOT occupied. But according to you, that's ok, they should tolerate being blown up on a bus on the way to work, right? Just shut up and accept it?
said by jingjong:
Palestinians are under occupation since jewish invasion in 1967!
Country A is attacked by Country B. Country A wins. Country A occupies. That's what happens in a war. You are confused about what constitutes an invasion.

momohammed20
Mo
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Munster, IN

momohammed20

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said by ravital:
said by jingjong:
Are you out of your mind! You are occupying other country and expect the people there to shut up and let you do what you want to do with them.
You're quite right of course, the right to resist occupation is quite clear here. However, the targets of the terror are not only in the territories, but also in Tel-Aviv, and that is NOT occupied. But according to you, that's ok, they should tolerate being blown up on a bus on the way to work, right? Just shut up and accept it?
said by jingjong:
Palestinians are under occupation since jewish invasion in 1967!
Country A is attacked by Country B. Country A wins. Country A occupies. That's what happens in a war. You are confused about what constitutes an invasion.
Ok First of all Tel-Aviv is part of israel and that is why it is being attacked.
Second palestinians are not terrorist they are freedom fighters. Palestinians have no choice but to blow themselves up. The Palestinians do not have weapons like israel does. They dont have an army like israel does. So the only choice again for the palestinians to protect there land is to blow themselves up.

ravital
Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter
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join:2001-07-19
Merrimack, NH

ravital

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said by momohammed20:
Ok First of all Tel-Aviv is part of israel and that is why it is being attacked.
And Jenin is part of Palestine and that is why it is being attacked. What's the difference?
said by momohammed20:

Second palestinians are not terrorist they are freedom fighters.
Israelis are not child-murderers, they defend themselves.
said by momohammed20:
Palestinians have no choice but to blow themselves up.
Israelis have no choice but to defend themselves.
said by momohammed20:
The Palestinians do not have weapons like israel does. They dont have an army like israel does. So the only choice again for the palestinians to protect there land is to blow themselves up.
And hurt the people in Tel-aviv who are NOT after their land? Makes sense, sure.

That's a very practical strategy, you know. There are more Israelis than Palestinians. So for every single palestinian who blows himself up, maybe 30 israelils are killed, then the army retaliates, another 100 or 1000 palestinians are dead, and the cycle starts all over again. Do the math, and tell me how many palestinians will be left in the end. Who's going to run out of people first?

Intifada-1 back in the 1990s was resistance, like the french resisted the nazis. Intifada-2 right now is absolute idiocy. Do you labor under the illusion that palestinians have any friends in the world, or even in the arab world? Want to hear the truth? Palestinians are the jews of the arab world. Palestinians have no friends. Palestinians USED to have ONE friend in the world - that was the israeli left. And they've done everything they can to lose that friend, and they've succeeded.

There is a third option, you know.

momohammed20
Mo
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join:2002-01-12
Munster, IN

momohammed20

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said by ravital:
said by momohammed20:
Ok First of all Tel-Aviv is part of israel and that is why it is being attacked.
And Jenin is part of Palestine and that is why it is being attacked. What's the difference?
said by momohammed20:

Second palestinians are not terrorist they are freedom fighters.
Israelis are not child-murderers, they defend themselves.
said by momohammed20:
Palestinians have no choice but to blow themselves up.
Israelis have no choice but to defend themselves.
said by momohammed20:
The Palestinians do not have weapons like israel does. They dont have an army like israel does. So the only choice again for the palestinians to protect there land is to blow themselves up.
And hurt the people in Tel-aviv who are NOT after their land? Makes sense, sure.

That's a very practical strategy, you know. There are more Israelis than Palestinians. So for every single palestinian who blows himself up, maybe 30 israelils are killed, then the army retaliates, another 100 or 1000 palestinians are dead, and the cycle starts all over again. Do the math, and tell me how many palestinians will be left in the end. Who's going to run out of people first?

Intifada-1 back in the 1990s was resistance, like the french resisted the nazis. Intifada-2 right now is absolute idiocy. Do you labor under the illusion that palestinians have any friends in the world, or even in the arab world? Want to hear the truth? Palestinians are the jews of the arab world. Palestinians have no friends. Palestinians USED to have ONE friend in the world - that was the israeli left. And they've done everything they can to lose that friend, and they've succeeded.

There is a third option, you know.
First of all there are more palestinians.only reason that no other arab countries helping out palestine is because they are afraid of america. America has all the arab countries on a leash whatever they want them to do they will do it because america is feeding all of the arab countries. They dont give support to palestine because they know that the only people who will use there money on the army is palestine. I am palestinian and i have friends in this world so you cant say that the palestinians have no friends in this world.

ravital
Just Another Pesky Independent Nh Voter
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Merrimack, NH

ravital

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said by momohammed20:
only reason that no other arab countries helping out palestine is because they are afraid of america. America has all the arab countries on a leash whatever they want them to do they will do it because america is feeding all of the arab countries.
After the battle around Jenin, Al-Jazeera had a "Martyrathon" - that's what they called it, a telethon where they sollicited donations from Persian Gulf states for "The Martyrs" in Palestine. Donations that were supposed to go to the families of Palestinian victims. Money came through from private donors all over the Gulf - Baharain, Qatar, Abu-Dahbi, even Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Do you know how much money was collected? $92 Million U.S. Where did it all go???? Did America prevent anyone from making donations? Did America prevent anyone from sending it to anyone? Do you think with $92 Million it would be possible to do something productive like, I don't know, build a second hospital in Jenin? Not in a million years. Do you know why? Because the last thing Arab countries want, is to resolve the Palestinian problem. Remove the problem, and Arab countries lose the flag they so enjoy waving at America. They lose any basis for any "public opinion" sympathy. Arabs have bought and sold Palestinians over and over whenever it suits them. What Israelis are doing to Palestinians is bad enough, but at least there's an element of self-defense. What Arabs are doing to Palestinians is unforgivable - and you're not going to find out about it from Al-Jazeera, or from Google, I promise you.

Maybe it's time Palestinians learned this unofficial Jewish prayer: Dear lord, protect me from my friends, I'll handle my enemies.

One last thing: The idea of committing suicide for the sake of killing your enemies with you, is not an Arab invention. It's a Jewish invention. The first person who did it was a Judean judge, his name was Samson. If Palestinians want to push Israel far enough, the Israelis may eventually exercise their "Samson option." If they do, no one will live in that land ever again, the Arabs will have to find another excuse and another scapegoat, but there will finally be peace.