http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9140357 en Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:27:35 EDT Thu, 24 Mar 2022 20:27:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-10003166 This has to be the only ISP that would limit the maximum concurrent connections.
Talk about braindead.

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"I have checked with our senior support team and the limit on simultaneous connections at once is 200. After this point, your connection will become very slow and quite possibly shutdown.
Although unsupported by Aliant, you may want to check within the game for a setting which will allow you to limit the number of connections."

This could explain why it happens when running servers too.
I also have a Linksys router and the Comtrend modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9883101 Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:23:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9652229 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9652229 Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:35:55 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9172506
I'm so not letting up on this, if a new modem doesn't fix this, I'm making them take me off PPPOE. The sad thing about this is that Aliant used to have the best connection in the maritimes imo. My parents still have an older aliant connection on a cisco 678, single dynamic IP at my parents house. That connection was one of the most solid I've ever used. Prior to that they used Paradime modems, which according to my friend who still has a connection with it, are even better. So sad to see it go downhill so quickly. Now to get a single dynamic IP 1.5mbit connection it costs like $80 cnd. Oh well guess that's the way of things. :/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9172506 Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:26:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9170765 --
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They don't really want to support it, but they're just going to have to. :) Personally at this point I would like to try a new modem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9169726 Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:22:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9167998
Have you contacted your ISP to see what they can do to help you troubleshoot this?
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I've played around a bit with the MTU. When you say lower, how MUCH lower are we talking? I've tried it at 1400, and a few other random #'s around there.

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Probably won't help then. :(
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I'm seriously considering turning the server into a server/router at this point... If you want to email some info (only played around with Linux once a long time ago and not with any depth) to me about it, hook er up. g0lli0g@hotmail.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9163119 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:24:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9162736
Google around, it's ALOT easier than you think to install FreeBSD - easier than linux even - and you can have it setup as a router and running various internet services within an hour of placing the install cd in the cd-rom.

Listen to liquidonline - his sig has my respect :P (albeit a common "cliche" he certainly didn't come up with)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9162736 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:47:32 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9161769 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9161769 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:30:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9160716 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9160716 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:55:56 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9160652
Three computers, one running 2003 server has 3 NICS in it. 2 Dlinks, 1 SMC. Not sure on the models but the one that I'm currently using is a brand new Dlink 530TX 10/100. I've tried each NIC in this computer. Other computer is a Dell with onboard NIC. Laptop has a Linksys wireless B NIC. The DSL modem is a Comtrend CT-301.

I've tried everything I can think of on the router's config side of things. Only the dlink seems to have an actual firewall. There's no way to actually disable it, can just allow everything. I've disabled DHCP, I've even hardcoded the WAN IP and DNS into the router through the static PPPOE option. It worked, but still ended up doing the same thing. Yes I've hardcoded the actual ISP DNS servers on the computers NIC as well.

Yeah it's happening on two routers. I just got another one here from Linksys today. So I'm trying that out now because it's actually different. They upgraded the model I guess from being just a normal 10mbit connection to 10/100. Other then that it seems the same, but we'll see how this one turns out. I'm not holding my breath.

But yeah the connection itself is flawless when plugged in directly. Disconnects every now and then, but that seems very rare. Have to remember that even through the router, it works excellent for the first 20-40mins, then it starts to lag out. Web pages take like 20 seconds or so, then they load. It's almost seems to me that there's a delay. Like the connection itself is fine, but there's a delay before it'll actually connect.

Something that really boggles my mind is in the game I'm playing, there's 0 packet loss. And the ping times are either fine, or it comes up as 0. That may mean they're off the chart for all I know, but they can't obviously be 0.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9160652 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:50:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9159085
Usually the NAT router just auto-magically translates everything coming in/out appropriately. I'm wondering if you aren't confusing yourself with a state table.


Possibly. Consumer hardware routers are terrible anyway.. I'd personally get rid of the damned thing..

It seems odd though that this happens with two different routers..

Is there a problem if the net connection is set up directly to one machine?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9159085 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:04:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9155729
Regarding the translation table you're referring to, while there's no way to know when the connection is closed, a proper router will not use a table like that religiously anyway AFAIK. Usually the NAT router just auto-magically translates everything coming in/out appropriately. I'm wondering if you aren't confusing yourself with a state table. This applies more to firewalling though than actual NAT, and brings another thought to mind. G0lliw0g if you are using any sort of firewalling please try to disable that on the routers, and see what happens. To be specific (and unfortunately I don't know anything about hardware routers so this may be something you can't do) don't make the firewall accept everything. Try to see if you can disable it altogether - without making NAT stop working.

Also, have you considered manually adding the name servers to the machines behind the routers? I've found that often this works far better than if it relies on anything else for obtaining DNS addresses. During PPPoE authentication it is possible to obtain the DNS ip's. However this only works on the machine (or router in your case) that is creating the connection. Often times, this information doesn't make its way on to the LAN - or is at best inconsistent (this is what I noticed on my LAN anyway).
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For this to work it must keep (internally) a list of connections so it can rewrite the packets appropriately. Unfortunately, it is impossible to know when the connection is closed so it keeps the list for a set period of time before dropping it.

If it is keeping it for a rather long time and you are making many small connections to different servers (I can see gaming causing this), it could be causing it to get 'bogged down'..

I personally use a Linux-based router so I never have a problem, but try this:

Don't do anything at all with your connection (don't let any background programs/daemons make connections either. In fact, unplug the ethernet cables from all your computers.). Plug everything back in (DON'T turn the router off!) after a few hours and check how your speed are. If they are fine, you may need to get a better router. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9155050 Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:26:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9143474
Just for the record, what's your make and model of modem and ethernet card anyway?

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I would post it on their forums, but where it's happening to both routers, it seems like there has to be something common here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9142836 Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:29:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9142571
»Linksys

»D-Link

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Here is the problem. I have DSL (Aliant in Nova Scotia), which is using PPPOE. I have two different routers (Dlink 10/100 and Linksys wireless B), which I need to use. I have a web server set up, a gaming computer and a lapop. I hook it all up, works flawlessly for an hour or two. Gradually there starts to be a delay in everything. Once a connection is made (to a webpage for example) it will go at mostly normal speeds. But there's a huge amount of lag. Disconnecting and reconnecting on the router will fix it, but disconnects me if I'm gaming, also is quite undesirable as you can imagine. If it's left overnight, it will basically time out before it can connect to anything.

So here's the kicker. Connection works flawless plugged in directly. But it does the SAME thing when it's plugged into EITHER router. There's gotta be something I'm missing here. Anyone have any clue?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/PPPOE-router-disconnectslag-9140357 Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:22:03 EDT