Canadian Chat → Immigration scandal

Boy now I'm really starting to get upset. Maybe, jsut maybe I'll not file my tax return in potest.

»www.canada.com/news/nati ··· a7d106c6

OTTAWA (CP) - A federal Liberal appointee is among 11 people facing a raft of criminal charges for allegedly participating in a fraud ring that fixed immigration appeal hearings in exchange for cash.

Another Legacy item from the JC days, good to see PM is at the helm, at least temporarily, to set things on a more democratic course!!
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Too many immigrants coming into this country as it is, a lot of them abuse the welfare & healthcare systems. Sad, but true.

HiVolt, and your solution is?

said by canada.com:

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This week, Immigration Minister Judy Sgro announced changes to the appointment process for the board, aiming to eliminate political patronage, strengthen the merit criteria and increase parliamentary review of nominees

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Funny that is the very same thing they said around about 1996 when they were receiving complaints about the competency of the members.

said by HiVolt:

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Too many immigrants coming into this country as it is, a lot of them abuse the welfare & healthcare systems. Sad, but true.

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Are you a native HiVolt? If not, I'd be re-considering those words,.. as your ancestors were once immigrants.

I am first Gen Candian. My parents emigrated here over 30 years ago. Although you'd never be able to tell form looking at me. I have been a victim of that attitude while growing up.

CBC had a link regarding the birth rate in Canada, stating that in 25 years time, unless we do have immigrants continue to move here, we 'citizens' will not have reproduced enough people to sustain a country.

said by HiVolt:

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Too many immigrants coming into this country as it is, a lot of them abuse the welfare & healthcare systems. Sad, but true.

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...and a lot of them don't. Likewise, natural born Canadians have been known to abuse the welfare and helthcare systems from time to time.

Take your ignorant comments elsewhere.

From my experience its only Toronto Maple Leaf Fans, a masochistic lot, that abuse our welfare and healthcare systems, especially the mental patients wards and counselling after the end of every hockey season!!!

Hahaha.... Look at Scarborough and tell me I'm wrong... I don't think I'm racist, but I cant help to wonder what's happening around me, how good areas simply turn bad over the years.

HiVolt, is there a particular kind of immigrant you are against?

I can't believe all the scandals lately in Ottawa. Canada will soon be known as one of the most corrupt countries in the industrilized world. I know someone will dig and poot stats from last year that doesnt include all the recent goings on in Ottawa.

I'm loosing my faith in Canada.

The problem in this country has a name QUEBEC!!

Another problem with the Liberal Party in Quebec.

Just make sure you don't vote for any more Quebec Liberals.

It is clearly not just JC.

said by HiVolt:

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Too many immigrants coming into this country as it is, a lot of them abuse the welfare & healthcare systems. Sad, but true.

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Ummm, I'm a first gen Canadian, my parents immigrated here. I have grown up all my life around Immigrants and their families, and I will tell you... they are amongst the HARDEST working people you will meet. Of course, theres always a few that ruin the reputation for everyone, but for the most part, they are honest hard working people. Many, like my father, work upwards of 12 hours a day, EVERYDAY, with NO holidays. I can't speak for all immigrants, but in my personal experiences, I have ::yet:: to see an able-bodied (and non-addict) Indian person on welfare... on TV and in real life.

Oh, and last time I checked, Health Care is used equally, it dosen't matter what your race is, if your sick... you want to see a doctor.

Hmmm... I am an immigrant. My mother was an immigrant in the country I was born. My father's parents were immigrants too.

I am a university professor. In my case, Canada is getting the benefits of an education it did not pay for. "Immigrants abuse the system" is just another of the rhetorical gimmicks racists use to disguise their biases.

Now, if you would excuse me, I'm off to abusing the system a little bit more...

Well said Mauricio!
I'm sure all those white looking bike gang members are hindu's in disguise too (with large heels and pillow paunches) That beard looks familiar..could it be Osama??

This country needs to get rid off those quebec politicians!!

Ever since Pierre Trudeau became prime minister in 1968, Canada has become
an increasingly French-style, over-regulated, high-tax,low-productivity,
anti-innovation, anti-competition, free-market-fearing socialist country run
from behind-the-scenes by kleptomaniac unions and bloated rent-seeking
industries and Crown corporations or their proxies. Canadians can't eat,
drink or use the washroom without Orwellian government oversight and
taxation; smugness and subconscious envy of Americans has replaced our
entrepreneurial pioneer spirit.

said by compmix11:

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Ever since Pierre Trudeau became prime minister in 1968, Canada has become an increasingly French-style, over-regulated, high-tax,low-productivity, anti-innovation, anti-competition, free-market-fearing socialist country run from behind-the-scenes by kleptomaniac unions and bloated rent-seeking industries and Crown corporations or their proxies. Canadians can't eat, drink or use the washroom without Orwellian government oversight and taxation; smugness and subconscious envy of Americans has replaced our entrepreneurial pioneer spirit.

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Yes that's why Canada has been able to do all the following over the last ten years...

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The Government has recorded six consecutive budget surpluses since 1997–98 and has reduced the federal debt by more than $52 billion. This has freed up some $3 billion a year in interest savings, which can now be used for other priorities. Canada’s fiscal turnaround exceeds that of any other Group of Seven (G-7) country. As a result, Canada’s total debt burden moved from being the second highest in the G-7 in the mid-1990s to the second lowest.

Over the last six years Canada has been a G-7 leader in labour productivity growth. Furthermore, the Canadian economy has created more than 2 million jobs since 1996, the best job creation record in the G-7.

The strength of Canada’s fiscal and economic position was demonstrated during the global economic slowdown that began in 2001, when most G-7 countries experienced considerable pressure on their finances.

Indeed, Canada was the only G-7 country to record a surplus in 2002 and is expected to be the only one to post a total government surplus again this year and next, according to OECD estimates.

Given the sharp turnaround in Canada’s fiscal situation relative to the other G-7 countries, it is not surprising that Canada has also achieved the largest decline in government debt among G-7 countries.

In 2000 it introduced a $100-billion Five-Year Tax Reduction Plan – the largest tax cuts in Canadian history. This plan significantly reduces the tax burden of Canadian families and individuals.

By 2008 the average Canadian corporate tax rate will be significantly lower than the average U.S. rate.

Canada’s scientific research and experimental development (SR&ED) tax incentive program to promote spending on R&D is available to every industrial sector and is one of the most advantageous R&D tax systems in the industrialized world.

Canada has become the most open economy in the G-7

Between 1990 and 2002 Canada’s exposure to foreign trade increased more than any other G-7 country. Indeed, as a share of the economy, Canada exported more than 40 per cent of its goods and services in 2002, making it the most open of all G-7 economies.

Canada has a long history of successfully embracing global markets. In 1989 Canada signed the Canada–U.S. Free Trade Agreement with the United States.

In 1994 the Canada–U.S. Free Trade Agreement was expanded to include Mexico, creating the North American Free Trade Agreement.

This expansion of trade has not only promoted employment and growth, but has also increased Canadians’ access to products from around the world and improved the allocation of resources, which in turn has contributed to progress in improving growth in productivity and living standards.

Canada’s increased economic competitiveness and improved fiscal position have contributed to a current account surplus and a sharp reduction in net foreign debt.

Canada’s net foreign debt is now below that of the U.S. for the first time ever. With continuing budgetary and current account surpluses expected in Canada, and continuing deficits anticipated in the U.S., Canada’s net foreign indebtedness should continue to fall and the gap vis-à-vis the U.S. continue to widen.

The sharp improvement in labour productivity growth in the late 1990s has made Canada a G-7 leader in this area over the last six years.

»www.fin.gc.ca/ec2003/eca1e.html

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said by Desi:

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Ummm, I'm a first gen Canadian, my parents immigrated here. I have grown up all my life around Immigrants and their families, and I will tell you... they are amongst the HARDEST working people you will meet. Of course, theres always a few that ruin the reputation for everyone, but for the most part, they are honest hard working people.

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I would agree with your assessment as well. Man, where I work it's full of immigrants, either the same employer as me or as clients. A lot of my friends are immigrants as well. They're all busy running their own business or up to something. Same thing when I was a production supervisor at another company. I find that many of them have much more drive, entrepreneurial, something to prove, that sort of thing. It's like they desperately want to fit into Canadian society and show us they're just as good or something.

The sad part though is I have known a fair amount of people who did abuse the unemployment or welfare system by working under the table, etc. but they weren't immigrants or 1st generation. They were regular Canadians who somehow felt that abusing the government was okay, that for whatever reason they were entitled to it.

Why do we need more immigrants.?

I thought that over population of earth was a concern of paramount proportions.!

Shouldn't we be encouraging the third world countries to depopulate.?

And if we attract all the skilled labour from these third world countries, how is it helping them (3rd world countries)? Shouldn't these skilled people being staying at home to help better their own people and country.?

For a country our size, the majority live pretty close to the US/Canada border. We still have a large amount of space that is un-used - not that it's a bad thing.

Define 'de-populate' in your view please.

A lot of the third world counties are aided by us in terms of teaching them to better themselves with farming technology we have eused for decades, and to try to help them become self-sustaining,... we aren't always successful, but we do.

I also believe we attract these people as we don't not have a civil every month, or use children to fight and kill. For those who can aford to immigrate, we are a big attractor.