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Comcast Speed Increases Official
Users should see 3Mbps by year's end
Though they've been tinkering with downstream bandwidth levels for months, Comcast today officially announced they'd be raising speeds for their standard broadband package customers. According to the company, all users of Comcast's standard broadband service should see their download speeds doubled by the end of this year. "Our job No. 1 is increasing speed -- increasing from 1.5 megabits downstream to 3 megabits downstream," said Steve Burke, president of Comcast's cable division. According to users in our Comcast forum, the company has been raising the download speed of their Comcast Pro service from 3.5Mbps to 3.8Mbps in some markets.
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD

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hip, hip, hooray

At least, I will appreciate somewhat the $61 a month I pay for their internet only service.

Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI

Nightfall

MVM

Re: hip, hip, hooray

There are ways around that.

Pay yearly. $472.45 will get you prepaid up for a year with a month free. I know others who have no cable TV but pay yearly for the internet who want the bundled price.
kenmasters
join:2003-07-30
Chicago, IL

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im with the people below...i had comcast and barely got 800 kbs here in Evanston, Illinois from 7pm-12am. During the day I was of course getting optimal 2200/217 but could not stand the bi-polarness of my connection. I've raised this to tech support literally over 10 times. and they gave me the same response each time..."looks fine on our end." needless to say I am now happily with SBC Ameritech where my connection speed night and day is posted below:

2003-09-07 10:41:39 Speed test (dslreports-west1.speakeas) 4605/326 kbps

Spy4
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NE

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Yes! Sounds Great! They didn't mention the price increase though, eh? You know that's gotta come. You ain't getting something for nothing.
vic102482
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Upper Marlboro, MD

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said by jammmin:
At least, I will appreciate somewhat the $61 a month I pay for their internet only service.
Horray Im with you. Although if you live in Bowie, 61 dollars should mean NOTHING to you Richie Rich;).

Rejected One
I Suffer From Id10t Errors
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join:2003-07-31
Wilmington, DE

Rejected One

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mmmmmmm Bandwidth...........

its about time but hey i work there we been hearing this forever lol maybe mine will be 3mbps when i get home:D

djrobx
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join:2000-05-31
Reno, NV
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Good for Comcast

This will make them a contender when my DSL contract runs out.

Now, question: Why does the "3 megabit Comcast" story keep making news headlines, but SBC's nationwide, officially announced upload increase to 256 up for basic, 384 for "deluxe" customers not newsworthy? I think it's a good move on SBC's part. It also looks as if Covad is doing speed increases, judging from Speakeasy's new speed increase/price reduction announcements.

-- Rob
[text was edited by author 2003-09-08 15:34:20]

Sniper_Merc
join:2002-01-16
Omaha, NE

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Re: Good for Comcast

Well. They didn't mention the 6000/384 plan available from sbc for $99 a mo now either, wouldn't expect anything less.

djrobx
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join:2000-05-31
Reno, NV

djrobx

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Re: Good for Comcast

Actually, that will be 6000/608, after the upgrades go through.

Sniper_Merc
join:2002-01-16
Omaha, NE

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Re: Good for Comcast

Yep I know

Just reupped for another year, went to the deluxe package, 768-1.5/256, which should get the migration to 384 up come october.

hih
@suomi.net

hih

Anon

Re: Good for Comcast

Speed 10000/10000 and 44 EUR, here in Finland .

ctgreybeard
Old dogs can learn new tricks
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join:2001-11-13
Bethel, CT

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Re: Good for Comcast

10/10? Agony! I've got MAJOR bandwidth envy! [I don't speak Suomi, though!]

Speedy8
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join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH

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Yeah, I can't wait until mine gets upped. Although I still would rather have 3000/3000 than 6000/608, but it just doesn't work that way, yet...

MikeStammer
No prison can hold me
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join:2002-12-26
Fortville, IN

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Too little too late and still not enough!

3.5 to 3.8 for 100 bucks (pro service)? Crooks!

I was with comcast, but with all the trouble they have in Chicagoland, i will never go back. Switched to DSL with SBC. I get 6 Mb/512Kb for 99 bucks a month and its way more reliable and stable. After overhead, i am seeing about 5000/500 or so. Werd!

djrobx
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Reno, NV
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djrobx

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Re: Too little too late and still not enough!

The news article kind of mixed an official announcement with an unofficial adjustment that was apparently made recently. I don't think the 3.8mbps is an "official" thing, simply an overhead adjustment, much like how people are getting 1.8mbps from their 1.5mbps service. It looks like the 3.8mbps users are from areas which don't have the 3 megabit service for standard users yet anyway.
bradeddie
join:2003-06-09
Westlock, AB

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Re: Too little too late and still not enough!

actually comcast's advertised speed is 1.5 but the config file your modem gets from them is 1.8. They advertised 1.5 because with a 1.8 config you'll see closer to 1.5 more often. If they set a 1.5 config on the modem you'll see 1.2 more.

Pz_
join:2001-03-31
Brownsburg, IN

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You know, I was wondering how the higher standard speeds were going to effect the Pro service. I've had the faster service at my office for awhile now. I may be downgrading soon though, the price vs speed point won't be worth it.

oliphant5
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join:2003-05-24
Corona, CA

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Re: Too little too late and still not enough!

They haven't announced what the new Pro speeds (if Pro will even still be around) will be. The increase from 3.5 to 3.8 is only to cover TCPIP overhead.

TheChosenOne2
I Will Bring Balance
join:2003-08-17
Deep River, CT

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"Probably"

In the article, the spokesperson for Comcast's cable division that the company would "probably" double the speed in all areas by the end of the year. It did not say Comcast would "definitely" double the speed everywhere. This will be very nice when/if it happens... but until then, I'm not holding my breath.

JeffB8
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join:2001-12-20
Somewhere

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Charter, Are You Paying Attention

I just hope that Charter is watching and paying attention to what Comcast is doing. $60 for 3M/256 would be just about right

RChanana
join:2001-06-28
Trumbull, CT

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Re: Charter, Are You Paying Attention

Keep dreaming..charter is a bunch of pigs...40 for 768kbps around here..sucks ass.

wdoa
join:2001-10-16
Spencer, MA

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Charter's views time and time again are that they don't care what any other cable provider is offering because they are not competing against them. I was told by a local Charter exec once that they consider DSL as their pricing and service level competition, however this all changed when Verizon DSL dropped there prices, all of sudden they didn't consider DSL competition either. Bottom line if you're stuck with Charter all you can do is hope you end up close enough to a CO to get the 1.5 service from Verizon, otherwise you are at Charter's mercy. We can just hope they go belly up and somebody else buys them up. The service isn't bad, it's just way overpriced for the amount of bandwidth.

JeffB8
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Somewhere

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Re: Charter, Are You Paying Attention

said by wdoa:
Charter's views time and time again are that they don't care what any other cable provider is offering because they are not competing against them.
And therein lies the problem. No competition, so they can do whatever they damn well please. They should be made to allow other cable companies to sell services similar to the way the phone companies have to sub-lease their DSL lines. So, if I want Comcast in Fort Worth because I think Charter doesn't provide adequate service or charges too much, I can go with Comcast.

IMO cable companies know where they can exploit the lack of competition and a) charge more, b) offer less, c) provide less than adequate service, or d) all of the above.
stridr69
join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA

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Re: Charter, Are You Paying Attention

Lordy, Lordy, Lordy...

Seems to me that you folks in here that are SOOOO happy with the faster download/upload speeds w/Comcast forget one thing-you have download caps per month!!!!

Like around 30 Gigs or so...so enjoy being capped sooner than later, kids..

Signed: One Happy CharterPipeline Customer(w/NO download caps)

Varlik
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Anderson, SC

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said by JeffB8:
I just hope that Charter is watching and paying attention to what Comcast is doing. $60 for 3M/256 would be just about right
I hear you bubbajoegump and agree with your 100%. Unfortunately Charter Operates in their own little world. And it isn't until their is a mass exodus of customers from that little world. That Charter becomes aware of reality and attempts to adapt.

This is why Charter is rumored to be exploring 2.0 /256 as the top plan when comcast is going to 3.5 /256. But when your broadband options are limited what can you do? Nothing really but bide your time and try not to throw out your back when your told to .... .... ...... !:)

Morac
Cat god
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ

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Double the speed at what price.

I see no mention of what prices will be after this happens. I'm assuming there will be a rate increase since there hasn't been one for over 6 months.

Now to figure out what I'll do with all this speed. I guess I can use up my quota of UseNet access twice as fast

Also what's with the fuzzy math?
1.5 x 2 = 3.0
30 / 2 = 15 (not 17 seconds)
[text was edited by author 2003-09-08 15:38:46]

Holyearth
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join:2002-07-18
Atlanta, GA

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Re: Double the speed at what price.

Darn, I'm moving to bellsouth DSL territory.

I hope bellsouth counters this somehow!!!!!!!

oliphant5
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Corona, CA

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There is time to establish the connection that doesn't change no matter what speed you have.

elias
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join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL

elias

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BBR Mentioned in the Article

quote:
Indeed Comcast is not the only company that offers higher than average speeds. Cablevision Systems Corp. (NYSE:CVC - news) users are reporting download speeds of up to 4.3 megabits per second, according to a Broadbandreports.com, which tracks the industry. Comcast users reported speeds of about 1.6 megabits per second.
I can't wait to see these speeds, woohoo!

Now, why haven't they upgraded the upload, though?

-- Elias

clevere1
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join:2002-01-06
Vancouver, WA

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up goes the download ..

And up goes the price ...

AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO

AthlGrond

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you forgot to say:

... again.

nineinchnerd
join:2001-12-31
Virginia Beach, VA

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Concrap

Problem with Comcast is they have no intention of upping the upload more than 256k. WOW is their competitor here in Michigan and a few other states and they already offer 3mb/500k for $75 WITH basic cable. Comcast better think of something better if they want to keep their customers here.

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Stonedonkey
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Corte Madera, CA

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But what about the Pro users?

I think we're going to see a lot of migration down to the basic package, for those who don't use much Pro upload bandwidth. Because all of the sudden, they're service is, in my opinion, very overpriced.

I'll bet Comcast is doing this as competition against DSL. It's about darn time, too, because those in cable broadband-only markets haven't been able to benefit from DSL competition--until now. With no yearly contract or termination fee, a lot of people will be hard-pressed to pass this up.

It also shows how much extra bandwidth Comcast is actually holding back. I doubt they upgraded their infrastructure one iota, since the price isn't going up. Yet.

mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ

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Re: But what about the Pro users?

said by Stonedonkey:
I doubt they upgraded their infrastructure one iota, since the price isn't going up. Yet.
Quite the contrary. A lot of infrastructure changes have been implemented. They spent countless millions replacing their Cisco UBRs with the new Cadent C4s alone. Also they replaced literally thousands of non-DOCSIS modems with DOCSIS 1.0 (1.1 and 2.0 capable) modems.

J D McDorce
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join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI

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Re: But what about the Pro users?

But are the infrastructure changes directly in support of going to 3Mbps or something else? (searching through ARRIS' website, »www.arrisi.com/index1.asp , each hit for Comcast also comes up with VoIP)

In addition, the replacement of non-DOCSIS modems with DOCSIS modems actually resulted in a reduction of downstream bandwidth for thousands of Comcast customers.
[text was edited by author 2003-09-08 21:28:21]
nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD

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wait for the other shoe

to drop, which will be a price increase in my opinion.

I just find it hard to believe that comcast will give something for nothing.

hbreg
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join:2000-11-09
Feasterville Trevose, PA

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Re: wait for the other shoe

said by nasadude:
to drop, which will be a price increase in my opinion.

I just find it hard to believe that comcast will give something for nothing.
Why would they raise prices? i think china crisis said it best
said by china crisis:
Comcast is $42.95 for 3mb/256 by end of year for HSI if you have basic cable TV.
I doubt the price will increase,they are raising caps to compete with DSL. You don't compete by raising your prices.

sentlon
join:2002-09-10
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Member

256 upload still suxx~!

do u all think that a incresing to 3m donwload is worth then increasing upload to 786k?

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JERMaCIDE
Death Is Eternal...?
join:2002-09-14
Vancouver, WA

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--

Well if your afraid of a price hike do this.
Comcast stock is around 30 dollars right now. Instead of getting their service buy 2 stocks of Comcast a month. Then you can get rich along with them.

bt06437
join:2001-12-03
Carrollton, TX

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Member

ut oh, too late

and I just signed up for Verizon DSL, the plan I will use (freedom/local package) lowers the monthly cost to 29.95/mo . I did ATT/Comcast for a few years, now its time to go for a cheaper service. I just dont need the speed. Its the money thing for me. Now to figure out how to cancel Comcast Internet..... =8-P

TheMadSwede
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join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI

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Grumble Grumble Grumble

Wow - maybe we're a little too demanding. I know, I know - Comcast hasn't been the best provider. And we need to be vigilant as consumers. I'm not defending Comcast, nor saying their service is a great value, nor saying any of us are idiots (well...maybe some of us...), but we all need to be realistic, too.

So for the average, stupid user like myself, I can't really find any reason why I should complain about this. The price is the same and my downstream speed will almost double. Why should I get mad about that?

The upstream speed grumblers have a sermi-valid point, but at least wait to start complaining about price increases until they actually happen.
N2DEEP
join:2000-08-26
Malvern, AR

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Why?

Why not expand the service area of their cable internet service instead of going for higher speeds. Lets see..spend money to expand and have more customers OR increase speeds and have the current users use more of the system and not get more money. Does not seem like a good business model for the long run.

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bartekxplx
join:2003-08-04
Linden, NJ

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HOPE PRICES WILL STAY THE SAME

I really really hope that comcast won't krank up the prices for their HSI.
right now im paying 57$ a month, and 684$ a year.
Wow, i guess they have enought money from 10 people to buy verizon.lol
With the speed going up from 1.5(im getting 1.7 right now) to 3mbits, it will bring more people to comcast, because before they probably would get like a 2.5 or 2mbits for a price around that(excluding upload).
After Linden NJ had a strange downtime where tv didn't work either, my speed went up from a average of 1.53mbits to 1.7 which got me thinking about this..
Will comcast raise the speeds little by little or just boost it up right away..hmm..interesting

newcustomer
@comcast.net

newcustomer

Anon

Re: HOPE PRICES WILL STAY THE SAME

I just got Comcast HSI 1.5Mbps/2-something about 3 days ago and i'm really happy with it so far. I guess maybe I don't expect much because I got HSI after being fed up with DIRECWAY satellite service (1 sec latency!!) and because I just found out that my area just made HSI available. Anyway, I was a little worried about the speed because I didn't know how much 220 Kilobytes per second could handle. It turns out to be fine, but I could really use the extra 1.5Mbps. I wanted to get Comcast Pro, but it was just too expensive for the 3Mbps. To sum up, I will be really happy if they make my connection faster, but it would really bust steam me if they upped the price because there isn't any other broadband provider available to us (in SW Michigan)! Also, what is with all the caps that people are talking about? I don't have any caps on my connection (other than the speed).

aitech
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Boston, MA

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WE WANT MORE UP!!

Doesn't anyone listen!?

jose3030
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Manassas, VA

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Re: WE WANT MORE UP!!

you are kazaa!
lol

aitech
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Boston, MA

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Re: WE WANT MORE UP!!

grrrr.. :-D
a Bad Man
join:2003-07-11
Towson, MD

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.

I haven't seen one of these commercials in a while, but it used to really chap my hide to see that father and son videoconferencing and playing some boxing game...because at the time the up speed in my area was 128k. Even at 256, that's not nearly enough for the quality of video they showed in that ad.

(I'm not complaining about the dowload speed increase though)

its_the_upstream
@dsl.snfc21.pacbell.n

its_the_upstream

Anon

It's the UPSTREAM, Stupid

ISP's everywhere: PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CUSTOMERS!

You claim that the market is your Lord and Savior, then you better get right with Jesus -- Jesus wants people UPLOADING more than DOWNLOADING.

Freiheit 09
Cool Chicks Will Dig Me Soon
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Saint Louis, MO

Freiheit 09

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Re: It's the UPSTREAM, Stupid

I dont consider switching from 1.5/256 to 2.0/256 an upgrade
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