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AOL VoIP in 2005
Beta testers receiving gear
Can you say crowded market? Some users in our VoIP forum have been invited into an upcoming AOL VoIP beta. AOL has signed up Level3 as a partner, been hiring for the division, and is expected to launch the product sometime in 2005. Once again the company will wind up competing with itself; Time Warner Cable's Digital Phone service is expected to go live over the next six months.
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furlonium
join:2002-05-08
Allentown, PA

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Kinda confused me, I thought reps from AOL came into the VoIP forum and sent out invitations, but it's actually people signing up for the beta themselves.

Why?
Yukstah
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join:2003-04-07
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I wanna play too~

How can I play?

furlonium
join:2002-05-08
Allentown, PA

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Re: I wanna play too~

Apparently you go to keyword "VoIP Beta".

IGotThePower
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wtf

"AOL has signed up Level3 to provide connectivity"

Wtf happened with ATDN?

C0deZer0
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Re: wtf

said by IGotThePower:
"AOL has signed up Level3 to provide connectivity"

Wtf happened with ATDN?
ATDN sucks, that's why.

If they can't even trust it to keep their mail service reliable, why do you think they'd use it for their own VoIP network?

mxmumtuna
join:2000-08-11
Ashburn, VA

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Re: wtf

shows you're not in the business

ATDN is a very well run network. It's also one of the most sought after peers for any largeish network. It has very good transit, and extremely reliable. Knock the AOL service all you want, but don't trip on ATDN.
Hooper
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Castle Rock, CO

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Back when I worked for AOL/Digital City Boston they used UUNet. Now that's a reliable backbone.

MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK

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Re: wtf

said by Hooper:
Back when I worked for AOL/Digital City Boston they used UUNet. Now that's a reliable backbone.

You're not kidding.
bmn
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join:2001-03-15
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ATDN is their data backbone...

Level3 is going to provide the VoIP endpoints... They already provide VoIP termination to other providers like Packet8.

pipdipchip
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join:2003-12-04
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Never...

I've been a beta tester for AOL for years and I didn't even hear about this until I went here. There isn't a word on the official beta page. Going to "VoIP Beta" just brings you to a page that says it's invite only but it has a "Consider Me" button.

Metal Head
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Re: Never...

said by pipdipchip:
I've been a beta tester for AOL for years and I didn't even hear about this until I went here. There isn't a word on the official beta page. Going to "VoIP Beta" just brings you to a page that says it's invite only but it has a "Consider Me" button.

It's by invite only, I got one about 3 weeks ago and am waiting for my ATA box.

pcdebb
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Re: Never...

i may have got it, but deleted the email as spam
rcman2
join:2002-03-25
Saint Louis, MO

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Got mine last Monday. Works great

odog
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backbone vs backend

ATDN is just "their" backbone.

L3 has all the voice termination equipment. they are how AOL VOIP will get into the PTSN. since L3 is effectively a phone company, it's akin to them getting in bed with any of the other big telco guys. they need the old school telco equip at some point it's just a matter of who to get it from. L3 already has a pretty large product base biult around this, AOL will just be another really big customer.

dslwanter
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Here we go!

AOL=Internet for dummies, now are we going to have VOIP for dummies? Are they going to overload their server with something when they offer VOIP that will cause people to lose their service just like they chuck their Internet with content and dial-up users get booted because in reality the server is probably too crowded. At least that's the theory I came to when AOL said I have the best access numbers and I even had a new modem put in and a top-notch computer at the time and I still got disconnected.

I love you DSL, I love you landline!

JDawgers
@attbi.com

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Re: Here we go!

If I go to keyword "Voip beta", it says its "by invitation only" , but it does give you a sign up option if you want to sign up.

Tha ReAlEsT
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to dslwanter
said by dslwanter:
AOL=Internet for dummies, now are we going to have VOIP for dummies? Are they going to overload their server with something when they offer VOIP that will cause people to lose their service just like they chuck their Internet with content and dial-up users get booted because in reality the server is probably too crowded. At least that's the theory I came to when AOL said I have the best access numbers and I even had a new modem put in and a top-notch computer at the time and I still got disconnected.

I love you DSL, I love you landline!

O just shut the hell up

dslwanter
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Re: Here we go!

said by Tha ReAlEsT:
said by dslwanter:
AOL=Internet for dummies, now are we going to have VOIP for dummies? Are they going to overload their server with something when they offer VOIP that will cause people to lose their service just like they chuck their Internet with content and dial-up users get booted because in reality the server is probably too crowded. At least that's the theory I came to when AOL said I have the best access numbers and I even had a new modem put in and a top-notch computer at the time and I still got disconnected.

I love you DSL, I love you landline!

O just shut the hell up

Oh just keep overpaying for Internet and when your VOIP goes out don't post a wining message.

Tha ReAlEsT
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Tha ReAlEsT

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Re: Here we go!

said by dslwanter:

Oh just keep overpaying for Internet and when your VOIP goes out don't post a wining message.

AOL is overpriced, but how is it internet for dummies? Its just the net, you can be clueless about the net on AOL, and you can be very knowledgeable. It doesnt matter if it was Aol of the pass, or the even better AOL of today. The reason i said shut up, is because your going on about aol for dummies so aol voip must be for dummies. Its probably going to be like any other voip(either good or bad). And the simpler, the better when it come to things like this.

Also, who said aol is my isp?

dslwanter
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Re: Here we go!

said by Tha ReAlEsT:
said by dslwanter:

Oh just keep overpaying for Internet and when your VOIP goes out don't post a wining message.

AOL is overpriced, but how is it internet for dummies? Its just the net, you can be clueless about the net on AOL, and you can be very knowledgeable. It doesnt matter if it was Aol of the pass, or the even better AOL of today. The reason i said shut up, is because your going on about aol for dummies so aol voip must be for dummies. Its probably going to be like any other voip(either good or bad). And the simpler, the better when it come to things like this.

Also, who said aol is my isp?

It is internet for dummies, at one point it was such a name everyone ran to it. They make it so easy and hold your hand right through it.

Tha ReAlEsT
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Re: Here we go!

said by dslwanter:

It is internet for dummies, at one point it was such a name everyone ran to it. They make it so easy and hold your hand right through it.

Does AOL make basic web use more simple? Yes, a little bit but it isnt a big leap in easy use as say someone who have a cable connection and just open up internet explorer. Same thing, and its even faster(just click on a icon).

dslwanter
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Re: Here we go!

said by Tha ReAlEsT:
said by dslwanter:

It is internet for dummies, at one point it was such a name everyone ran to it. They make it so easy and hold your hand right through it.

Does AOL make basic web use more simple? Yes, a little bit but it isn't a big leap in easy use as say someone who have a cable connection and just open up internet explorer. Same thing, and its even faster(just click on a icon).

Actually all you need is basic dial up and you can dial-in then just open internet explorer and surf like that, let's not forget the windows dial-up networking, but again, an AOL user wouldn't know that because it's right there in front of ya...

Tha ReAlEsT
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Tha ReAlEsT

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Re: Here we go!

said by dslwanter:


Actually all you need is basic dial up and you can dial-in then just open internet explorer and surf like that, let's not forget the windows dial-up networking, but again, an AOL user wouldn't know that because it's right there in front of ya...

Actually, you go to network connection and create a new connection(wizard). I said cable because its even easier, you dont have to dial into anywhere(fitting my whole point of ease) fool. As soon as your pc power up and your logged in your ready to use the net, but not with a setup dialup connection.

dslwanter
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So yes, AOL is for the less knowlegable towards the internet.

dddane
join:2002-01-10
Chicago, IL

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that was the longest run-on infested post in history.

dslwanter
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Re: Here we go!

said by dddane:
that was the longest run-on infested post in history.

Your point?

trparky
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AOL vs. Time Warner?

Who thought up this AOL/Time Warner Merger anyways? Seriously, the one who did should be shot.

There is more fighting internal to the company than I have ever seen in my 22 years of living on this Earth.

Time Warner has VoIP, therefore, AOL much have VoIP. Talk about fighting amongst themselves. Oh wait, I know, they do this to create virtual competition. That way, they can't be accused on being a monopoly. Ehhhh....Something is wrong here!

mxmumtuna
join:2000-08-11
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Re: AOL vs. Time Warner?

I guess MTV and VH1 'monopoly' are 'fighting' even though they're both owned by Viacom? It couldn't just be taking advantage of the different brands? No... that couldn't be it.

Theo25
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Time and people magazine had reports out this past year saying their magazine subscriptions have almost doubled due to AOL's advertising of it. Apparently the merger isn't all that bad.

trparky
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Re: AOL vs. Time Warner?

Tell that to Time Warner, who is now loosing money by the gobs because of AOL. AOL is like the Titanic, taking water, and sinking fast.

Theo25
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Re: AOL vs. Time Warner?

Actually AOL was very profitable last quarter, read their earnings report, they are a cash cow whether you like it or not.

dddane
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Time Warner is loosing gobs of money? That's news to me. Maybe you haven't heard of the 100 other companies TW owns *besides* AOL?

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Liquid Panic
join:2002-08-25
Hollywood, FL

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Ahhh Ha Ha Ha!!

HA HA HA!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Oh man... HA!

Whew..
This can't be serious. What about their precious dial-up users?
Now would be a great time for AOL NOT to sink a lot of money into this..
I will NEVER understand why people pay for broadband, and then another fee to have AOL run on top of it..

"AOL... So easy to use.. no wonder the internet is full of idiots"

-LP
Lmptk
join:2002-09-10
Los Angeles, CA

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AOL VoIP

Back to the VoIP Beta. I am using it and it works great. Who cares about the other crap everyone is rambling on about.

Peace Out

British Yob
@aol.com

British Yob

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Idiots

I've been reading all your posts and I can't help laughing at you all.
You go on about all AOL users are idiots and I quote "no wonder the internet is full of idiots"
My god, your so good arnt you. You know a little bit more about PC's than most and you think your great.
Lets face it, YOUR YANKS.
Enough said.

Nfeliciano
@aol.com

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AOL vs TimeWarner

If you are spending over $40 a month on cable/dsl then really what is $10 more for AOL.You get more services than any other isp and the voip works great.By the way AOL has more subscriber's than all isp's high speed or dialup combined so I don't understand how they are losing money.Also AOL's stock dropped from $70.00 a share to $21 so do some research dummies.
duk0r
join:2005-03-24
Leander, TX

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Re: AOL vs TimeWarner

ATDN Is horrible, I wish Level 3 would totally take over AOL's backbone...

A traceroute from a server in Dallas,TX back down to a TIme Warner Road Runner customer in Austin, TX:

9 chp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.139.150) 115.024 ms 27.606 ms 27.220 ms
10 pop1-chi-P4-0.atdn.net (66.185.150.209) 34.451 ms 34.127 ms 34.195 ms
11 bb1-chi-P0-0.atdn.net (66.185.141.84) 52.822 ms 82.289 ms 69.188 ms
12 bb1-kcy-P7-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.125) 47.328 ms 47.611 ms 47.192 ms
13 bb2-kcy-P1-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.127) 248.013 ms 219.931 ms 207.934 ms
14 bb2-dls-P6-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.128) 27.960 ms 27.996 ms 27.972 ms
15 bb1-dls-P2-0.atdn.net (66.185.153.28) 27.984 ms 28.028 ms 28.461 ms
16 bb1-hou-P6-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.133) 33.468 ms 34.001 ms 33.976 ms
17 pop1-hou-P3-0.atdn.net (66.185.150.149) 33.479 ms 34.024 ms 33.470 ms
18 RR4-HOU.atdn.net (66.185.133.158) 32.970 ms 33.025 ms 32.936 ms
19 pos10-2.austtxrdcrtr4.texas.rr.com (24.93.33.154) 39.990 ms 39.987 ms 39.959 ms

The route goes from: Dallas to Chiciago to Kentucky to Dallas to Houston back to Austin.

YEAH! GREAT! Pffft..!
tchamilton
join:2002-07-19
Trabuco Canyon, CA

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AOL VoIP Proposed Pricing

AOL VoIP Proposed Pricing as follows

Local Plan $13.99 first three months $18.99 thereafter.
Unlimited Plan $24.99 first three months $29.99 thereafter.
and more when AOL VoIP comes live.