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Harry Potter author JK Rowling apparently refused to release an "e-book" version of the latest installment, out of fear of piracy. Well, Boing Boing points out that the book was scanned via OCR software, proofread, and circulating via IRC channels 12 hours after it hit book stores. What's more, pirates have released a net.radio performance of the book. Maybe Rowling will issue an e-book edition next time around?
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TechieZero
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Heh...

Silly Rabbit Trix are for Kids?

RR Conductor
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It's stealing, end of story.

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“Possession is NINE-TENTHS of the law”

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I really think that piracy is best combatted by adapting to technology not fighting it. Baen.com has been selling OPEN FORMAT ebooks for 6 years now and there sales are growing in response. The books that they give away in ebook format actually out perform those by the same authors that are not given away. I don't condone piracy but I think the the Harry Potter response doesn't help any at all. People want the electronic version and some, at least, will pay for it.
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Ahh dont tell me!

I already bought my copy for like 20 bucks and finshed it anyways.

If its good enough I will pay people!

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Sound and words are not "products." Art is not a product, and therefore it can be stolen. That's like saying "Sartre's notions of existentialism can be stolen."

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Get back to class, Birkenstock boy.

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Hahah. Nah, that was me three years ago, but I'm the Puma shoes and Diesel jeans type, hipster, not hippie.

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Of course they're products.

Product N -- Something produced by human or mechanical effort or by a natural process.

A product is simply something that was produced. You can produce sounds and words just as easily as anything else.
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lol 12 hours! not bad. warez 4 life!!!!

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Actually, it was a bit under

I haven't read it yet.

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Just more justification of theft by petty criminal

Just one more article trying to justify theft of service against the big bad corporate world. Give me a break. If they had put out an e-book, they would just have been stealing that and not paying for it.

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Just more justification of theft by petty criminal
Thievery or not, if they had put out a resonably priced eBook with decent production; I bet this would not have happened so expediantly.

Who wants to spend several hours making an eBook? Not me thats for sure.

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No, you missed the point entirely.

Rowling didn't release an E-Book version out of fear of piracy. So instead the pirates simply found other ways to pirate it. Net result? Rowling screwed herself out of some legal E-sales. The point is it doesn't make sense to cut off legitimate sales avenues out of fear of piracy. It's going to happen anyway.

It's a concept I wish the recording industry would learn. I don't want DRM-laden, low bitrate music. Let me pay you for the high quality MP3s that I want. Instead I only buy CDs, and I rarely do that. I just listen to my Sirius radio most of the time, and opt not to own a copy of the music. If I could just buy the MP3s I'd do it all the time. Just as in this example, don't punish legitimate buyers for the actions of pirates.

-- Rob

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Exactly. The point is that not releasing a digital version doesn't stop piracy at all. The last book was online to download before the book was even released, and there was no eBook of it either.

I finished reading the book yesterday.

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said by Bootes:

Exactly. The point is that not releasing a digital version doesn't stop piracy at all. The last book was online to download before the book was even released, and there was no eBook of it either.

I finished reading the book yesterday.
I don't like the piracy either but the loss is a less then a drop in the bucket. J,K Rowling is making 36 million plus bucks a day and Half Blood Prince in selling at a rate of 250,000 books an hour. This is fantastic!!:D:D It does an old school teacher's heart good to see young people reading:D:D:D:D I had my copy of the book and audio book at 12:32 am saturday morning.;) Best one yet!

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said by Bootes:

Exactly. The point is that not releasing a digital version doesn't stop piracy at all. The last book was online to download before the book was even released, and there was no eBook of it either.

I finished reading the book yesterday.
I'm not sure that is the point. Perhaps the point (or a counterpoint to yours) is that the thieves have effectively crippled several avenues we have of obtaining things because the artists DO NOT LIKE BEING STOLEN FROM and refuse to make it easy for the jerkwater assholes that continue to steal and think it must be OK because it is so easy.

A thief is a thief is a thief... screw nice names like "pirate" - use the proper label; THIEF.
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No, you missed the point entirely.

Rowling didn't release an E-Book version out of fear of piracy. So instead the pirates simply found other ways to pirate it. Net result? Rowling screwed herself out of some legal E-sales. The point is it doesn't make sense to cut off legitimate sales avenues out of fear of piracy. It's going to happen anyway.

It's a concept I wish the recording industry would learn. I don't want DRM-laden, low bitrate music. Let me pay you for the high quality MP3s that I want. Instead I only buy CDs, and I rarely do that. I just listen to my Sirius radio most of the time, and opt not to own a copy of the music. If I could just buy the MP3s I'd do it all the time. Just as in this example, don't punish legitimate buyers for the actions of pirates.

-- Rob
it goes even deeper than that n terms of the recording industry not wanting you, as a customer to buy individual tracks without drm... it's because the acts that they sign, for the most part, suck, therefore, why should let you cherry pick songs from an album or a set of albums, when they paid all of that money to artist/talent to produce a wholly putrid piece of auditory puke to make an entire album so you could buy that whole album at $15 - $20 a pop...?

believe me, i'm not advocating theft here, but considering the business model that the recording industry is operating under, it is no wonder that they've let technology and software bite them in the ass... they haven't adapted, they are just simply playing a defensive manuever in the hopes that they can stem the bleeding that they will die from...

if they were smart, they would sign acts and producers, not to produce albums, but strictly singles, therefore they can milk it for all it's worth instead of dumping millions into an album that is totally mediocre... or better yet, how about artists totally break free from the recording industry altogether and do what they do best, create good music for the masses... maybe i'm just using wishes and dreams here to explain this, but music today has become an utter commodity that isn't really worthy of me spending my hard-earned cash to listen to...

oh well, maybe someone else has a better idea...
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Re: Just more justification of theft by petty crim

All artists should be just like the Greatful Dead and tour, let everyone record the concert, and who cares how many albums are made. The only people this would bother would be the RIAA.

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I agree.

This is the same stupid sort of logic used by the recording industry when illegal file sharing was just getting popular.

Meet the demand, legal or not, someone will.

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not really sure where the justification part comes in. maybe if people were to just sell their goods at a reasonable price instead of creating uncecessary pomp and circumstance then manipulating the price and venue in order to make a bloated profit. Well maybe...just maybe it wouldn't have backfired.

Next time release the book and the damn e-book.
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if people want it...

and you don't provide it, someone else will.

Now, instead of making more money (as if she needs it), by making her customers happy, her and the publisher will SPEND money suing people to stop this. And it won't stop it.

Content providers are so stupid. Apparently, the more successful, the more stupid.

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Hmm

Harry Potter book -- about $18
6.9 million copies sold in 24 hours -- $124million
Having more money than the queen (more than $1 billion estimated wealth), priceless.

She could probably care less about pirating sheesh.

PS I am on chapter 4

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I'm no bleeding heart liberal

But people who own property often use that property to themselves get richer while keeping the poor where they are. Unfortunately all claimable property has been claimed, and people coming into this world now don't even have a chance against the already-rich.

Why this rant in this thread? Because intellectual propery laws, as currently written, are just an attempt to bring that material model to something that is not real property. Old words are used in new ways to make us associate copyright infringement with something that it isn't: stealing. The beauty of computers and digital techology is that it allows for unlimited copying. Imagine if tomorrow smeone invented a Star Trek style replicator and started feeding the world... food manufacturers would be up in arms and replicators would be outlawed.

Mankind is so obsessed with twisting the future to fit our memories of the past that we don't want to recognize the uniqueness of things that didn't exist before. It's like fundamentalists in America trying to return to an America that never existed. Reading a copied ebook s not like stealing bread and it never will be. The government can tell us it's wrong because they have their own selfish interests, but eventually everyone gets tired of living a lie and the lie collapses. The Soviet Union was not the first to find this out nor will it be the last.
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Your Absolutely right. (i'm no where near a liberal bleeding heart.)

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said by vpoko:

But people who own property often use that property to themselves get richer while keeping the poor where they are. Unfortunately all claimable property has been claimed, and people coming into this world now don't even have a chance against the already-rich.
What a load of B.S. Before J.K. Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books, she was a person of modest means.

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But people who own property often use that property to themselves get richer while keeping the poor where they are. Unfortunately all claimable property has been claimed, and people coming into this world now don't even have a chance against the already-rich.
What a load of B.S. Before J.K. Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books, she was a person of modest means.
So does that justify the fact that Corporate America creates overpriced goods? If something is overpriced to the extent that is ridiculous for paper, then there are other alternatives. Ignorance is bliss.

I can see it now, the RIAA and MPAA going bankrupt from legals fees.

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So does that justify the fact that Corporate America creates overpriced goods?
A copyright owner is free to govern access to his/her works in any way he/she please. That's the end of the story. If you don't like the price ($18 or so for the book?) then you can always not buy it, wait for it to go on clearance, or wait for it to come out in paperback.

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And I'm free to pirate it if I feel I'm being ripped off.

There is ZERO distribution cost (effectively) for an electronic version of the book, so pray tell me how they can justify an 18.00 price tag?

If they offered the book for .99 cents, gave .85 cents to the author, and .14 cents for overhead, then yes, I would willingly buy it, and I wouldn't feel ripped off. But as long as the CONSUMER feels ripped off, copyright holder be damned. The solution is to NOT RIP OFF THE CONSUMER. If the copyright holders are perceived as greedy fat cats, then the vast majority (90% +) of us have zero problem with infringement (hint: it's not theft, it's infringement, and it's not even infringement in every country of the world).

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There is ZERO distribution cost (effectively) for an electronic version of the book, so pray tell me how they can justify an 18.00 price tag?
So if the costs are zero why should I pay anything for it? Who sets the price?

No matter what price you set someone is going to want to pay less. You fools who complain about being ripped off are nothing more than hypocrites, citing the greedy producers preventing you form having MORE STUFF. So who's more greedy, the producer who actually created something that people are willing to pay for or the consumer who has done nothing but wants to set the price on someone else's work. A price I will point out approaches zero the lower the producer sets the price.

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Or go to the library

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Yes the library. Since I can get a copy and read it for free from the library, what is so wrong with downloading the free ebook and saving the time it would take to drive to the library????

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said by Time:

So does that justify the fact that Corporate America creates overpriced goods?
The problem isn't that "Corporate America" is creating overpriced goods, The problem is that "The little guy" often thinks whatever he's paying is a ripoff and other "little guy's" are able to sympathise with him. The problem is that the price is negotiated (transparently) between the producer and the consumer instead of just the consumer which just chaps your ass to no means because the producer is often good at what they do.

So rather than just not buying what you think is overpriced and forcing the price to go down, you steal (or something else that is the equivalent of stealing) whatever is out there that you can do so conveniently and discreetly.

The only reason you don't steal everything you can in this manner is because you sympathize with what appears to be other "little guys"...this only lasts till they become successful.

"Corporate America" (or the producer) is always going to charge whatever it is that they think will gain them the most profit (be it $1 million selling one unit or $1 selling a million units or giving a freeby hoping that you'll come back and buy over $1 million of something else), and the consumer is always going to try to pay less. They balance each other out, you just want to take the big mean old corporation outta the equation so that you can have everything you want, to hell with the repercussions.

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said by pnh102:

bquote]What a load of B.S. Before J.K. Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books, she was a person of modest means.
You misunderstand. I'm not arguing against all intellectual property, but the concept has been very abused. I guess it doesn't relate to this story in a specific way except that IP and profit-motivated paranoia is still at the heart of it all.

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What a load of B.S. Before J.K. Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books, she was a person of modest means.
Witchcraft pays but Hell is forever.
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said by pnh102:

said by vpoko:

But people who own property often use that property to themselves get richer while keeping the poor where they are. Unfortunately all claimable property has been claimed, and people coming into this world now don't even have a chance against the already-rich.
What a load of B.S. Before J.K. Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books, she was a person of modest means.
actually, she was homeless at one time for quite a while, i believe...

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said by pnh102:
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But people who own property often use that property to themselves get richer while keeping the poor where they are. Unfortunately all claimable property has been claimed, and people coming into this world now don't even have a chance against the already-rich.
What a load of B.S. Before J.K. Rowling wrote the Harry Potter books, she was a person of modest means.
actually, she was homeless at one time for quite a while, i believe...
Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? She's worth millions now. I don't understand why people pitty those who are now very wealthy.
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"person of modest means" who stole her idea from a comic book. How interesting that she doesn't want it stolen again.

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I guess the argument isn't black-and-white. To an extent copyright is stealing, but to bigger extent IP laws need to be overhauled so that they properly balance the rights of indivuduals with the rights of copyright holders.

You have to remember that the JK Rowlings of the world are exceptions, most copyrighs are owned by corporations - corporations with lobbyists who help turn the tables in their favor.

I think more of us agree than disagree that BOTH stealing and the current state of copyrights are issues.

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So all this new technology.. ebook readers, high speed transfers, massive storage capabilites, Divx players, are we to stop using all of these due to copyright laws?

Most of the arguments are classic ones of the old school (**AA's, Publishers, etc) vs. the new technologies. These new technologies enable people to break the law, and cause low moral standards and corruption. Stealing is stealing, and the cause is people growing up with technologies which enable stealing. We need to stop this stealing, this moral decay if you will, of our society.

WAIT.. I've heard this before? Hmm.. where have I heard this? Oh, yes, RADICAL MUSLIM FIREBOMBER CLERICS. They argue the same arguments all these 'it's stealing, it's wrong' people on this board do. So before you say 'this is stealing, we need to ban/DRM the technologies', think about it, you are using the exact same arguments radical suicide bombers use..

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quote:
So all this new technology.. ebook readers, high speed transfers, massive storage capabilites, Divx players, are we to stop using all of these due to copyright laws?

Most of the arguments are classic ones of the old school (**AA's, Publishers, etc) vs. the new technologies. These new technologies enable people to break the law, and cause low moral standards and corruption. Stealing is stealing, and the cause is people growing up with technologies which enable stealing. We need to stop this stealing, this moral decay if you will, of our society.

WAIT.. I've heard this before? Hmm.. where have I heard this? Oh, yes, RADICAL MUSLIM FIREBOMBER CLERICS. They argue the same arguments all these 'it's stealing, it's wrong' people on this board do. So before you say 'this is stealing, we need to ban/DRM the technologies', think about it, you are using the exact same arguments radical suicide bombers use..
dumbest post ever

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Ok, lets sum it up..

#1: If I didn't purchase the book, and I don't download the PDF, them I'm in the clear.

#2: If I don't purchase the book, and I download the PDF version without paying the author, then it's infringement.

#3: If I purchased the book in hardcover format, then do I have a right to download the pdf? (yes)

#4: If I purchased the book, do I have a right to CONVERT it to a pdf? (see #3)

So, the real question comes down to, exactly what are you purchasing? Apparently if I purchase the hardcover, I get a set of rights with it. I have the right to resell it. I have the right to convert it to another format (braile, etc). Those rights CANNOT be removed via a shrinkwrap agreement, etc, or by some page at the front of the book.

But wait, do I have a right to convert it to a new technology format (ebook)?

That's where the dividing line is for all of us. The old school people argue that you only have the right to own the physical media, and you can only do with it what the copyright owner decides you can do. HOWEVER, that law has been challenged MANY times in courts, and the copyright owners rights are LIMITED after the first sale of the product (RIGHT OF FIRST SALE). So if I purchase a hardcover book, I have every right in the world to convert it to pdf, I have every right to pay someone to convert it for me, I have every right to resell the physical book. So if you are basing the argument that the publisher can tell me what I can do with the book AFTER I purchase it, I can tell you to go to hell, and the courts will back me up. Period.

The problem is then with the digital copy. If you want me to respect the publisher the same way I do with a physical copy, then you have to give me the abilities to do with the digital copy that I can do with a physical copy. (i.e. convert, resell, etc). If I have those rights, then I'll grant the publisher the same respect I give them for purchasing a physical copy.

BUT, if you tell me I have less rights just because it's 'digital format', then why should I give you any rights in exchange? Why should I continue to observe the social contract we had in the past, if you are unilaterally changing it due to a change in technology which you are afraid of? Just because I CAN copy it? Why can't I resell my ebooks? (DRM). Why can't I resell my Itunes (DRM). Why should you the publisher have the RIGHT to prevent me from using my ebook reader/ipod? You shouldn't? And the more you try and restrict me, the less I respect you.

So get off your high horses you right wing christian moral nuts, and face reality. The reality is the publishers treat their customers like criminals, so by definition, we are going to act like criminals. It's the prohibition all over again. The only way to stop it is to all go radical muslim, and revert back to pre printing-press ages.

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The only way to stop it is to all go radical muslim, and revert back to pre printing-press ages.

Please. Go right ahead.

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Wow...so this is how people justify theft in the 21st Century.

Amazing.

How about don't read it unless you've paid for it?

Is it really that hard?

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WTF? How is this author any different than the athlete that continues to exploit their talent to make millions? What about actors and actresses? What about the bloody programmer?

I'm firmly in the middle class and while I don't agree with handing someone a patent on putting two spaces after the period at the end of every sentence, in my opinion there's a place for copyrights and patents.

Regarding the price of albums, books and whatever else we buy, the market sets the price. If people didn't buy the book/movie/album at that price, it would be lower or if unprofitable at a lower price, it wouldn't be produced.

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That's not true of art. Art will be produced REGARDLESS of the demand because it is not a product!

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Most people will buy the book

... because they like to collect them. I would be one of those people. I like to buy the books I read and in fact, I even prefer to collect hard covers.

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Exactly. Piracy or not this new book is going to be a best seller and make her a ton of money. She could have made some more money by selling the eBook, but I guess paranoia got the better of her.

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I differ here...

Even though I'm pro piracy for most things (DVDs, music), I'm not for pirating books.

Authors get raped by the publishers - it's because of publishers that 95% of published authors don't make enough to make it a full time job.

Same thing with musicians - you can however support musicnas by buying their merchandise. I would rather buy their merchandise than their CD, because they make more that way.

Authors don't have that option though. They're only source of income is through sales of their book. Which is why I'm against book piracy.
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And there is no Harry Potter merchandising??

(I don't advocate stealling anything but I just wanted to make a point).

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Well, there is, but it's different. JK Rowling sees almost none of that, either, from what I know. That all goes to Warner Brothers.

Just like Digimon game card sales went to Bandai instead of the animation studio in Japan.

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Maybe the Pirates will go to prison for a LONG...

...LONG time ????

Should be fun tracking these scumbags and throwing their azzes in the slammer for ten or more years. Then we'll see who gets the last laugh.

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War is already lost

First time I see so much great comments on BBR.I agree with you all the way.Too bad those corporate we're talking about don't see this but anyways I doubt that one day they will realize.With this case,the Harry Potter book,it is clear that they should provide quality digitised content for sell over the web,without DRM protection.But the problem is that they are so close to win that it will never change,it will only get wroste.Anybody heard of the Fritz Chip that is gonna be incorporated in motherboards really really soon and later in CPUs,it's hardware based DRM & even wroste kindda act like a stealth spyware.All that will work in team with Longhorn codes.Unless everybody boycott that piece of shit they will win.With the chip on motherboards hacker hardware like modchips is a possibility,but a CPU based protection?Good luck with it.Seeing the direction computing is going using a PC soon will be a real nightmare,at least for me,& even for those who never use pirated content.

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POB
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA

POB

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Wake Up and Smell Reality



Ha Heh! Just for refusing to release an e-copy version, I'm sure e-book enthusiasts everywhere will devote special attention to the newest Potter book.

Note to Ms. Rowling: Just because you ignore something doesn't make it go away. Dumbass.

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Deadpool0
Go Sens Go
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join:2001-03-29
Canada

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Deadpool0

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Librarian Pirates?

What about borrowing it from the Library? How is that any different then downloading the book on my PC, reading it, then deleting it? God knows I don't keep something like an e-book on my PC once I've read it.

Edit: Someone should tell the government about the HUGE book pirating racket going on across Canada right now...it's called 'The Book Market'!!!
»www.bookmarket.ca/

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N3OGH
Yo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs

N3OGH

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YAWN!

I couldn't care less.

JK Rowling is using thousand dollar bills as pantyliners, why should I care.....

I know, I KNOW it's stealing, so PLEASE don't flame me. I know stealing is wrong, blah, blah, BLAH.

It's a $12 book for chrissake, more people are probably shoplifting it from Barnes & Noble than downloading it...

bokamba
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join:2002-04-05
Arlington, VA
·Verizon FiOS

bokamba

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Books are a different story

Books are different from music in that they are best enjoyed (by many) in their physical form. Few people will claim that LPs and 8mm film reels are superior to digital music and video, but there are millions, including me, who prefer a paper book to a digital version. This is why iTunes has done well while e-book sales haven't really taken off.

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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA

guitarzan

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Harry Pirater

What's the deal over a fictional book called Harry potter? Pfft
it's a childrens book.Now the non fictional book Will by G.Gordan Liddy is a very good read That I would buy as an ebook. Let the pirates have all the fictional books they want.

haze_nme
join:2004-01-13
Tucson, AZ

haze_nme

Member

I pre-ordered mine and it's still not here

I am going on vacation in 2days so if it doesn't arrive by tomorrow I will definitely be downloading it for the trip. I don't consider that stealing since I am a paying customer. If anything I should pay the release group extra who was nice enough to pick up the ball where JK Rowling dropped it.

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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR

richardpor

Member

Where are my Hip waders?

The BS getting deep.

I do not believe it for one second that if prices are reasonable piracy will stop. Ok $29.00 is not reasonable will drop down to $10.00. I bet the commie-libs will still be crying unfair. The flaming socialist will not be satisfied until JK Rowling gives away her book for free.
This goes for any company producing media. If one dose not like Digital Rights Management I got a suggestion: get out of your mama’s basement ad get a job. Let me help:

»www.laborready.com/home/ ··· ain.asp#

www.moster.com

Sharing, the act of 99% of the population forcing the other 1% to provide their milk for free: better known as slavery.

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gukid
join:2005-05-17

gukid

Member

Book publishers will always try to rip you off.

How about give the readers the cheaper option of a paperback version right away to increase sales. Oh right, that doesn't allow you to force people who want the book right away to fork out over $25 for paper and cardboard...

pokesph
It Is Almost Fast
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join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA

pokesph

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ebook

well i've seen it it's quite a small file (1.9MB) for a PDF and is of decent quality..

lets see free download VS 30.00 +tax + gas + hassle
hmmm, wonder what a lot of people will choose.

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one_bored_si
join:2003-03-10
Montebello, CA

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one_bored_si

Member

Pirating Harry Potter

Harry Potter pirated, OOH THE HUMANITY, when will the pirating terror end? A better question yet is why does anyone believe they can "own" an idea? Once you give it up to anyone but yourself you essentially give to the public.
If I walked into a book store and memorized the entire book then walked out, have I not stolen it?

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Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
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join:2003-12-20
Someshire

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Cudni

MVM

What if ...

It is a wrong book just ever so slightly. Wrong ending, wrong character alive/dead etc.

How will they know?

Cudni

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