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LamdaRail & Internet2 Merge
To create new uber-academic network
The two fastest educational broadband networks, LambdaRail and Internet2, are planning to merge. The new organization, which had been a rumor for some time, will be creatively dubbed "Internet2-National Lambda Rail." "We believe bringing these two organizations together will enhance those capabilities needed today, and provide a solid foundation for providing capabilities required in the future," says the group.
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Evergreener
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utopia...?

I like to think of this as some "Utopian Internet"... free of spam, viruses, bad porn, Nigerian scams and all the other less than desirable things clogging up Internet 1.0.
rodrod5
join:2001-02-28
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Should have been the Tri-Lam

Lambda Lambda Lambda baby!
nexus796
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BitTorrent wet dream

Hmm.. can anyone say 'Bittorrent'?
acs12798
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Re: BitTorrent wet dream

intenert2 actually had i2hub for a while which was a file sharing client designed specifically for the speed of i2. However, it was relatively easy for the school to shut this down when the decided they didn't want the wasted bandwidth.
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yeah the problem is the only movies on there will be a beautiful mind, contact, IQ, and various rips of Star Trek : Wolf in the Fold.
porn will be slightly different too, instead of babes spread eagle on top of a low rider chevy, it will be babes spread eagle with an electron microscope, or particle accelerator

noncents
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nothing to the consumer

merging does nothing to bring these kinds of speeds to the last residential mile. not even close.. if anything it delays such realities..
acs12798
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Re: nothing to the consumer

said by noncents :

merging does nothing to bring these kinds of speeds to the last residential mile. not even close.. if anything it delays such realities..
Huh? It has nothing to do with consumer broadband nor or should it. This a private network for educational institutions. It isn't, nor was it supposed to be for the consumer. The idea is mostly to exchange research in a secure controlled environment.

Its not like the school use i2 for their internet connections. The regular internet connections the people in the schools use are much slower.

morbo
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Re: nothing to the consumer

considering that the original internet began in an institutional setting (or was it military?), seems relevant.

Cabal
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said by acs12798:

Huh? It has nothing to do with consumer broadband nor or should it. This a private network for educational institutions. It isn't, nor was it supposed to be for the consumer. The idea is mostly to exchange research in a secure controlled environment.

Its not like the school use i2 for their internet connections. The regular internet connections the people in the schools use are much slower.
While I do agree with your first point, most schools automatically route over the I2 when able to, so they partially do use them for that purpose. Perhaps I just noticed more because I downloaded a lot of free software that was university-hosted back in college, but it was a significant portion of my traffic, and offered a nice boost in speed (155 Mbps vs. 45 Mbps Internet link at the time). Nothing to complain about when pulling ISOs at ~36 Mbps across the Atlantic.
acs12798
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Re: nothing to the consumer

said by Cabal:

said by acs12798:

Huh? It has nothing to do with consumer broadband nor or should it. This a private network for educational institutions. It isn't, nor was it supposed to be for the consumer. The idea is mostly to exchange research in a secure controlled environment.

Its not like the school use i2 for their internet connections. The regular internet connections the people in the schools use are much slower.
While I do agree with your first point, most schools automatically route over the I2 when able to, so they partially do use them for that purpose. Perhaps I just noticed more because I downloaded a lot of free software that was university-hosted back in college, but it was a significant portion of my traffic, and offered a nice boost in speed (155 Mbps vs. 45 Mbps Internet link at the time). Nothing to complain about when pulling ISOs at ~36 Mbps across the Atlantic.
Interesting, I haven't noticed that. However, my school has a 200mbps connection for its regular internet connection so I haven't felt the need to check(although 200mbps for 7000 students plus professors doesn't seem like a lot, I've never run less than 5mbps if i checked). Maybe I should run a trace route when I'm on campus.

brooklynman4
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Re: nothing to the consumer

But ill bet its not free someone gotta pay for it.
ss911der
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Re: nothing to the consumer

It's not free. The campus I live by is connected to it and it cost's a pretty penny, but downloading at over 100Mb/s makes it all worth while.

XoLiMiT
join:2001-10-04
Englishtown, NJ

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internet2

Actually the internet1 was first private/military only and then commercialized (.com) for businesses and then came the e-commerce era as a result.

Internet2 is a private network composed of educational and non profit organizations so NO home or commercial traffic allowed on this super fast fiber network.

Internet 2 is utilized everyday at universities that are members of the network. Servers at the university identify(dns) traffic as part of the internet or internet2 infrastructure and properly route it using the proper network. If for example a student at my school (NJ IT) tries to visit www.yale.edu he/she will be routed using the internet2 network and never touch the internet1 infrastructure. If the student attempts to visit CNN.com of course the student will be routed via internet1.

Internet 2 is also jointed with internet2 like networks in Europe, Asia etc that are also educational/non profit.

I believe internet2 will eventually become commercialized just like internet 1 except it will be built on a better fiber dedicated network infrastructure which could solve the hypothesised problem that the internet is getting 2 crowded/running out of bandwidth.

As i discussed with my professor at NJ IT the technology of internet 2. I asked if internet 2 would serve as an emergency network in case of internet1 being attacked (assuming). My professor believes the network is not yet equipped to handle all the traffic of internet 1 but it could be possible to transfer traffic from the internet1 infrastructure through internet2 infrastructure with some work.
I also asked about the redundancy and resistance against an internet attack on internet2 and how it would compare to internet1, my professor believes that its redundancy and resistance to attack is about the same as internet1.

gogeta6
join:2002-06-20
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Re: internet2

Of course it couldn't handle whatever you are calling internet1. It's a 10gig backbone whose goal is 100mb connections between points at different schools etc. They may be testing new network statistics and stuff all the time, but they are still just leasing lines from the big telecom companies (was MCI when I used it). I can only imagine what having a 10gig backbone for all traffic would mean for the internet in this day and age. Saying internet 2 will be comercalized is kind of silly, it's just a seperate network.