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AT&T, Verizon Get Their GPON On
Though in AT&T's case, on a much smaller scale...

Verizon is in the process of migrating their FiOS network from BPON to GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network) fiber technology. Their current BPON technology splits 622Mbps downstream and 155Mbps upstream among 32 users. GPON technology will allow them to offer 2.4Gbps downstream and 1.2Gbps upstream among 32-64 users (eliminating ATM, making it also more efficient).

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The company has been testing the technology in a number of communities, with some employees having 100Mbps access. Verizon initially focused on California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Texas, stating late last year, and all new 2008 installs in those States will be GPON.

You likely won't see any new speeds at first, as the upgrades are a way to "future proof" the network. 100Mbps connectivity may emerge eventually, but even Verizon admits that such a speed is more a marketing weapon than anything else at this point. When it is deployed, Verizon says limited demand will have them employing the over-subscription model.

While AT&T offers slower end-user bandwidth via VDSL, they'll also be making some substantial investment in GPON toward the tail end of this year, according to Light Reading. The report says they'll be installing Alcatel-Lucent and Ecricsson GPON in an uncertain number of greenfield (new home) fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) deployments. That's not as exciting as it could be, given those users are capped at 10Mbps worth of usable data bandwidth.

As AT&T told us last October, roughly a million of the eighteen million homes they plan to pass by the end of this year are fiber to the home. Hopefully they eventually unleash the potential of those connections.
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO

elios

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whats the point

so being stuck in ATT land and seeing as im not going to buying a home for A LONG LONG TIME AT&T realy need to get on ball here

and 10Mbps LOL mediacom is faster then that what a joke
kcir
join:2005-07-30
Butner, NC

kcir

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Re: whats the point

You wait, till they fully roll out U-verse .... there will be no stopping them! REALLY LOL

MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK

MarkyD

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AT&T

I'm in an AT&T FTTP area, and I dropped it due to the lack of bandwidth. Something tells me even with GPON it's going to be no different.

morbo
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Re: AT&T

you would think that they would even uncap the FTTP areas, or if not uncap, at least raise the bandwidth to win some points in the freaking PR department. everyone knows they can use it...

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

dvd536 to MarkyD

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said by MarkyD:

I'm in an AT&T FTTP area, and I dropped it due to the lack of bandwidth. Something tells me even with GPON it's going to be no different.
10mbps on GPON??????? are they serious?
if this was 1993 it would be worth talking about but this is 2008!
A T & T as usual fails to deliver!
defaultPlay56
join:2007-11-30
Collegeville, PA

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That's great and all but...

What about those of us with FiOS who have already had their neighborhood configured with BPON before the switch over to GPON?

JohnDrenZ
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join:2000-04-03
New River, AZ

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Re: That's great and all but...

said by defaultPlay56:

What about those of us with FiOS who have already had their neighborhood configured with BPON before the switch over to GPON?
Just read the article again slowly and you will get your answer
flashcore
join:2007-01-23
united state

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All Verizon has to do once they upgrade the central office with GPON cards is come out to your house and replace the ONT and they only need to do that when/if you get a 100Mbit+ connection.

tschmidt
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said by defaultPlay56:

What about those of us with FiOS who have already had their neighborhood configured with BPON
As others have posted the great thing about FTTP is that speed upgrades are cheap. All that needs to change are CO line cards and ONT at customer. Fiber outside plant is not affected.

/tom

Ben
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join:2007-06-17
Fort Worth, TX

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So What?

I live in an AT&T area, but only for phone. I live too far from the C.O. to get DSL. So now I have to use the cable company, who's prices aren't even competitive to AT&T Static IP DSL.

Plus AT&T doesn't seem serious about their FTTP, and even if they were they still don't offer speeds faster than 10Mbit, even though they could. And they should, since there are people who'd pay for it.

I only hope this means more FTTP and faster speeds.

I can care less about their U-Verse TV. But I think that 20/20 Fiber Internet would be really nice right now, especially if they can do it within $100/mo.
majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Medford, NY

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Verizons backbon handle gpon?

I was wondering. They are upgrading the nodes to gpon but if they gave everybody 100/100 and above is verizons backbone equiped to handle all the traffic if this is done?
soothsayer15
join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX

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Re: Verizons backbon handle gpon?

said by majortom1029:

I was wondering. They are upgrading the nodes to gpon but if they gave everybody 100/100 and above is verizons backbone equiped to handle all the traffic if this is done?
It's in the blurb.
quote:
When it is deployed, Verizon says limited demand will have them employing the over-subscription model.

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Anon

Re: Verizons backbon handle gpon?

said by soothsayer15:

said by majortom1029:

I was wondering. They are upgrading the nodes to gpon but if they gave everybody 100/100 and above is verizons backbone equiped to handle all the traffic if this is done?
It's in the blurb.
quote:
When it is deployed, Verizon says limited demand will have them employing the over-subscription model.
In other words.. it will work like a cablemodem.. a DOCSIS 3.0 cablemodem but none-the-less peak bandwidth usage will see some FALL-OFF.. probably as much as 25-megabit deficit per subscriber.. but still... that's damn good.. also don't expect those speeds end-to-end all over the place.. the internet isn't wired to give millions of subscribers 100mbit connections.. so expect some traffic delays as par for the course. It is also speculative that Verizon will actually be the first to "jump" into much higher speeds. First they will rub SYMMETRIC packages in the cable company's face to force them to upgrade to docsis 3.0... which means 10/10, 15/15, 20/20, 30/30, 50/50.. (if you get 50/50-- they will probably upgrade you to gpon)

koitsu
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koitsu

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California

Verizon initially focused on California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Texas, stating late last year, and all new 2008 installs in those States will be GPON.
Does anyone know which areas of California Verizon began this testing in? I'm guessing SoCal, but I'd really like some confirmation.
DataDork
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Los Angeles, CA

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Re: California

Santa Monica, Redondo Beach, Rolling Hills. trust that you do not want to be on the first way of GPON... think back to the first wave of FIOS... in comparison.. think to every first gen of anything...

edit: there not testing.. verizon IS deploying!

Gary A
join:2008-03-02
Odessa, FL

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GPON In Florida

Great! I have FiOS in Florida - 10/2Mbps. I didn't see Florida in the GPON list.
tkdslr
join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL

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Re: GPON In Florida

said by Gary A:

Great! I have FiOS in Florida - 10/2Mbps. I didn't see Florida in the GPON list.
In south Florida, RT's are connected via 100M Fibre ethernet.
Some day they may upgrade GigE over fibre.

Anything else, I doubt it.
They would end up throwing away a lot of equipment and going back to the custom equipment route. I don't see it that happening.

Ream0
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Ream0

Anon

I Think They Forgot

TPON! Affectionately known as 'Tampon" But who cares? I won't be getting any benefits of any new technologies because Verizon won't roll out services. Not even a crappy DSL here in suburban Los Angeles!