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Great for the Cell Phone companiesThis is great for all those wireless carriers that block you from accessing competitive Internet applications from your iPhone, smartphone, etc. The phone uses someone elses network bandwidth instead of their 3G. | |
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Bobcat79
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2010-Apr-15 11:57 am
It's not "free"It's included. | |
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moonpuppy (banned)
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2010-Apr-15 12:20 pm
Re: It's not "free"But since it is free, there will be no service credits if it doesn't work. | |
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ArrayList
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2010-Apr-15 12:54 pm
Re: It's not "free"with it being free, does it actually have any value then? | |
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Its only a small band of rebels that know the sidious truth of these retched cable and telecos lies. Power to all the members here! | |
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They should figure out a way to serve up free wifi from any customer's cable modem. The wifi would be free to use by any subscriber of the 3 services, and bandwidth used would not count against the customer's limit if used by other people, and QOS would prioritize the customer's own traffic. That would expand the network into every neighborhood, and any business that subscribes to one of the 3 services would be able to offer free wifi to their customers. Of course, the cell companies like AT&T would like it because it would significantly reduce the load on their network, while the customer is still paying for 3G from AT&T. In Manhattan, it's hard to be out of range of any Wi-Fi network. If they were all free for cable customers, most mobile bandwidth would go out over the wi-fi networks. The cable companies can handle the traffic much easier with DOCSIS 3.0. | |
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33358088 (banned)
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2010-Apr-15 11:58 am
hey its monopolization timelook at how canada is doing it and make $$$$$$$ screw the customer and if you htink we'll all be having cheaper internet this century THINK AGAIN the real estate scamers are now YOUR internet providers cant wait for the next chapter of the USA sucks worse | |
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glinc
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2010-Apr-15 12:13 pm
Ouch VZVerizon better step up the plate lol. While I love FiOS, I think their wi-fi is lame (due to software) and not that many wi-fi spots at all around nyc. | |
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Bobcat79
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2010-Apr-15 12:25 pm
Re: Ouch VZYou want lame? I'll show you lame. CV's coverage in my town: Zero (0) WiFi sites. | |
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Re: Ouch VZsaid by Bobcat79:You want lame? I'll show you lame. CV's coverage in my town: Zero (0) WiFi sites. Eh... also lame is that we have zero FiOS in my town, even though all the surrounding towns have it. | |
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Bobcat79
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2010-Apr-15 12:55 pm
Re: Ouch VZHey, we have a brand-new Fios store, but no Fios service. | |
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SSidlov
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2010-Apr-15 3:11 pm
Re: Ouch VZsaid by Bobcat79:Hey, we have a brand-new Fios store, but no Fios service. Go in and demand to buy the service. The State should sue Verizon for reneging on the deal that wiped out local negotiations, anyway. | |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
Makes a lot of sense from the cable co's. point of view While it isn't 'free'....at least it's a customer friendly gesture and will help prevent attrition to competing wireless 3G services in a major urban market.
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watice
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2010-Apr-15 12:37 pm
twchow would a twc customer go about getting a login for these wifi hotspots? | |
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Re: twcsaid by watice:how would a twc customer go about getting a login for these wifi hotspots? Just use the same user ID and password that you have for your TW Internet account (usually your email address and password). If you are a cable only subscriber (in other words, you don't subscribe to their high-speed Internet service), you don't get this feature. | |
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this is actually interestingthese interconnected networks provide a seamless access...at least if you are a cablevision customer....you register your device with cablevision for instance and drive alone the coverage area (and quite surprisingly coverage is very good), and your internet does not disconnect/reconnect...it just works...in a moving car....so do we really need clear in new york anymore? | |
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Bobcat79
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2010-Apr-15 2:18 pm
Re: this is actually interestingsaid by vlad1000:quite surprisingly coverage is very good Not in New Jersey. | |
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SSidlov
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2010-Apr-15 2:57 pm
Re: this is actually interestingjust not in the your neighborhood, live closer to NY | |
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AVD
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2010-Apr-15 12:56 pm
yonkersI can detect a cablevision, a comcast and a timewarner hotspot at my Dad's house in Yonkers. I doubt that CC and TW have set up their own infrastructure there, so it appears that this was unofficial policy in the past. | |
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Re: yonkerssaid by AVD:I can detect a cablevision, a comcast and a timewarner hotspot at my Dad's house in Yonkers. I doubt that CC and TW have set up their own infrastructure there, so it appears that this was unofficial policy in the past. It's all the same hot spot...just serving three separate SSID's. You had to connect to the right SSID for your cable provider in order to authenticate. The article implies that all authentication has now been unified. | |
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AVD
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2010-Apr-15 3:10 pm
Re: yonkerssaid by limegrass69:said by AVD:I can detect a cablevision, a comcast and a timewarner hotspot at my Dad's house in Yonkers. I doubt that CC and TW have set up their own infrastructure there, so it appears that this was unofficial policy in the past. It's all the same hot spot...just serving three separate SSID's. You had to connect to the right SSID for your cable provider in order to authenticate. The article implies that all authentication has now been unified. agreed, but what's the real world difference? | |
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Re: yonkersThere is no real world difference now.
Before this announcement, you had to make sure your device was associated with the proper SSID and properly authenticated with your ISP. Now you can move between any one of them without having to worry. More seamless. I've had instances where I was connected to CV's SSID, then it would drop to xfinity or TWC for some reason. I'd have to go back and manually reconnect. No longer an issue. It's also no longer an issue who owns the AP. | |
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S C R E W (*!*) C E L L P H O N E Sbring on the portable WIFI devices that can do VOIP as well as other apps! kudos if they actually get together & create an APP that let's consumers use their digital-voice lines from the portable to make & receive phone calls! time to run rings around the telcos. | |
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Re: S C R E W (*!*) C E L L P H O N E SOh Yeah!!!! Keep talking!! Now your cooking!!!! I'm all for that!!! | |
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Yeah, bring it on. Value-added products - good for consumersWe're 4 months away from ditching VZ, "promised" FIOS within 6-12 months three (3) years ago so settled for lowest tier 768/128 DSL on aging, ever-neglected copper wires since - got "boosted" to 1.0/384 services last year but got issues !! VZ Fios store - nearby - opened last year but still clueless about availability on our block. Thick cables pulled on primary streets & avenues at least 6 months ago & folks on the next 2 blocks and 6 to 8 blocks further to the north can order & actually got FIOS installed by the new "white" VZ van 2 or 3 months ago.
VZ's wifi and especially its software is a JOKE, and it's actually using Boingo & owned/acquired by AT&T wireless and I can simply use my Starbuck accounts to simplify access at the cafe & skip the VZ hotspot finder completely.
Now, with all 3 NYC cable providers joining together to spread wifi coverage and with VZW bringing on higher priced mandatory data fees for even non-smartphone devcies, we're ready to realize & pocket some serious savings on our VZW bills on the go - once we get to quadtriple our HSI speed at home. Why not, especially in this economic climate - where every dollar saved are counted (well, it certainly help to fill up that gas tank, price of regular is now back up to $3.15 a gallon for cash at local gasoline stations ....) | |
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Re: Yeah, bring it on. Value-added products - good for consumersBoingo is NOT ATT. WayPort is ATT. | |
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There is bound to be some sort of catchOh, you used our Wi-Fi the last 6 months? Here is a bill for $99.95 for which you owe us
Dont think of it as a bill, think of it as us giving you a "better experience" with the $99.95 | |
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SSidlov
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2010-Apr-15 2:59 pm
Re: There is bound to be some sort of catchno catch.
CV is one of the only providers that doesn't want to meter your downloads, doesn't cap (but does regulate traffic*) and hasn't raised the pricing except if you want more speed. They upgraded everyone from 10/2 to 15/2 for free a while back. They offer up to 100/15 service residential over their whole footprint for a year now, and 100/100 for business (and that one's fiber to the office).
* I can get 16mb on my bt.... I have 30/5 service. | |
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NiceDon't really see any negatives here. Thats amazing. | |
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Re: NiceOne for me I'm a Time Warner customer but Earthlink is my ISP, that leaves me out in the cold | |
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RolteC
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2010-Apr-15 2:25 pm
Been seeing this for a few weeks now...This is great! Now I can log onto any one of those three between all the locations that I am at which is awesome! | |
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Double sided swardI'm wondering what the other side of the blade will bring? It's "unlike" two (never mind three) competing companies to freely join forces. | |
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SSidlov
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2010-Apr-15 3:08 pm
Re: Double sided swardthis is easy. It's a way for Cablevision to PAY for the service and gain a few more access sites for their existing customers. Even it's not continuous coverage, it looks good on paper (Free Hot Spots from NY to Conn!)
1. CV already Spent $300 mill for the upgrade to D3 and put in the WiFi as a potential extra feature. 2. It's of little value unless there are more sites in NYC where TWC is king and the Comcast places which pocket Cablevisions area. CV bid on wiring the LIRR. 3. Comcast has no access to lot's of areas around Manhattan and little in Manhattan, so providing any access is a plus to them 4. TWC is Manhattan but little outside Manhattan so it's a plus for them. 5. IF TWC and Comcast add additional spots (maybe they're using CV's staff/contractors to deploy and manage and do the D3 upgrade) it may be a big cost savings to them while making money for CV and reducing the costs since they would be bigger buyers of equipment. | |
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Service Electric?So I wonder when SE Cable is going to partner up with Cablevision for this?
Maybe do a deal with PenTeleData to get access to their PA hotspots in exchange... | |
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roc5955 Premium Member join:2005-11-26 Rosendale, NY |
roc5955
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2010-Apr-15 3:21 pm
Does anyone know...Where Comcast's hotspots are? I can't seem to find a website for them with google (who is usually a trusted friend in these matters). I have been able to find them for Time Warner and Cablevision. There online chat is only for sales (who knew?!). I tried that, and after 10 min of chat, I finally found out! They want me to call, but I figure someone here must have the skinny on it. | |
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Re: Does anyone know...They are the same as TW or Cablevision. It's just one access point per hotspot with three SSIDs. | |
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Comcast rolls out wifi under the Xfinity brand. I was at a meeting this evening, and looked at the hotspots from CV's poles, and it was CV, TWC and Xfinity. It used to be "comcast' but they've changed it. » www.betanews.com/article ··· 65250092 | |
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sailor
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2010-Apr-15 11:14 pm
WTG!!Cable subscribers on Long Island and in New York City now have access to additional high-speed Internet networks beyond their own company's coverage area. In a novel arrangement, Bethpage-based Cablevision Systems Corp., New York City-based Time Warner Cable and Philadelphia-based Comcast Corp., announced that, as of Thursday, customers of the other cable companies can use their Wi-Fi networks in the New York metro area for free. John Bickham, Cablevision's president of cable and communications, said in a statement that allowing customers to "roam freely across networks is an extremely meaningful and transformative development." Cablevision, which owns Newsday, has 3 million metropolitan area subscribers. Cablevision is in the middle of a $300-million project, launched in September 2008, to install Wi-Fi in its service areas. Time Warner has 1.4 million customers in the metropolitan area, including in four New York City boroughs. The company last month announced Wi-Fi zones free for subscribers at several parks in Manhattan, Queens and on Long Island Rail Road train platforms (through a partnership with Cablevision). Karl Bode, editor of New York-based Broadband Reports.com, said having Wi-Fi hot spots included with cable service was a good alternative to costly mobile broadband data plans. Of the cable operators, he said, "They're figuring if they work as a team, that gives them a little more leverage against Verizon," which competes with cable operators in their territories by offering fiber-optic FiOS service. In July, New York-based Verizon began offering certain broadband customers free access to thousands of Wi-Fi connections nationwide. John Bonomo, a spokesman for Verizon, said, "We offer free Wi-Fi as well at thousands of locations." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- » www.newsday.com/business ··· .1864379 | |
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Re: WTG!!This is great for me and my iPhone. I'm a cablevision customer but I'm on the outer edge of cablevision territory, I spend most of my time at work and out in comcast territory, so cablevision's wifi is mostly useless to me, I also have access to AT&T wifi spots because I'm a AT&T customers
Free wifi with a service I already pay for is a great customer added bonus. The cell phone companies shouldn't mind too much since they already have me locked into a 3G contract for my iPhone\ Might be a reason for them not to go to per byte billing.
Think about it AT&T I now spend 90% of my time within reach of some kind of WiFi, I'm sure I could get away with a pretty small data plan, better off to leave me stuck paying $30 than reduce revenue lol | |
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