pandora Premium Member join:2001-06-01 Outland |
pandora
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2011-Nov-9 10:53 am
I still like NATI still like my IP 4 NAT. | |
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Re: I still like NATnothing like using duct tape to fix a problem. | |
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Re: I still like NATsaid by ArrayList:nothing like using duct tape to fix a problem. It got a plane flying again, lol. MythBusters approved. | |
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dvd536
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2011-Nov-9 2:51 pm
Re: I still like NATsaid by PapaMidnight:said by ArrayList:nothing like using duct tape to fix a problem. It got a plane flying again, lol. MythBusters approved. if you call 50mph, 5 feet off the ground 'flying' | |
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GoNative to pandora
Anon
2011-Nov-9 11:34 am
to pandora
Do you play games? Because if your carrier runs out and they deploy NATs, then your games will stop working. Your Xbox/Playstation/Whatever won't be able to make UPnP requests to their carrier NAT.
In short, deploy IPv6 and go native. NAT "just works" until it stops working. | |
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pandora
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2011-Nov-9 12:53 pm
Re: I still like NATOne day, we will need IP 6. For the moment, I'm very happy with IP 4. I think ISP's may have more control over us with IP 6, and IP 6 may eliminate some of the minor security facilitated by NAT. | |
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88615298 (banned)
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2011-Nov-10 5:23 am
Re: I still like NATsaid by pandora:One day, we will need IP 6. Considering there are ZERO IP 4 adresses left to give out I'd say that day is pretty fucking close. | |
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pandora
Premium Member
2011-Nov-10 7:21 am
Re: I still like NATsaid by 88615298:said by pandora:One day, we will need IP 6. Considering there are ZERO IP 4 adresses left to give out I'd say that day is pretty fucking close. Years ago, before anyone cared, I ordered 64,000 IP 4 addresses at no cost. For a while MCI routed them (this was long ago, I think 1996ish). Not certain if I could get Comcast to route em, but I only need 1. Haven't used any of em in years. I initially inquired about 256 IP addresses, but was informed that 64,000 was their minimum. I was Joe nobody, but that was then and this is now. They used to pass out IP 4 address space like it was candy. | |
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joshub
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2011-Nov-10 8:20 am
Re: I still like NATThat's why we now have companies like Ford and Prudential that has no real use of class A space (16,777,216 IPs) hogging them all to themselves. If we revoked all private class A assignments and require them to reapply under actual usage requirements as it is now, there'll be enough IP4 left for many more years. | |
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pandora
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2011-Nov-10 8:31 am
Re: I still like NATsaid by joshub:That's why we now have companies like Ford and Prudential that has no real use of class A space (16,777,216 IPs) hogging them all to themselves. If we revoked all private class A assignments and require them to reapply under actual usage requirements as it is now, there'll be enough IP4 left for many more years. I have no need for the address space they allotted to me. I doubt it can be returned and reasonably used. However, a lot of the IP4 address space issue is due to issues early on where companies and jerks like me got too much space. Note, I didn't want more than 256 IP addresses, but was told that less than 64,000 couldn't be easily routed by an ISP at the time. | |
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said by joshub:That's why we now have companies like Ford and Prudential that has no real use of class A space (16,777,216 IPs) hogging them all to themselves. If we revoked all private class A assignments and require them to reapply under actual usage requirements as it is now, there'll be enough IP4 left for many more years. No, more like a couple months. This is a LONG TERM issue. Stop thinking so short sighted. | |
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anonv6now to pandora
Anon
2011-Nov-9 2:39 pm
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said by pandora:I still like my IP 4 NAT. Revolt against the tyranny of shared addressing! #OccupyNAT #OccupyIPv4 | |
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Will users get a /48 or a /64A /48 should be standard for end users quite honestly. It allows multiple subnets for a guest zone for example. | |
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| whfsdude Premium Member join:2003-04-05 Washington, DC |
whfsdude
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2011-Nov-9 11:45 am
Re: Will users get a /48 or a /64said by fifty nine:A /48 should be standard for end users quite honestly. It allows multiple subnets for a guest zone for example. This is the first phased of the trial. All signs point to the following as the actual setup for how things will work when this thing goes full scale. 1. Devices get DHCP /128 point to point w/ a routed /64 to that client side of point to point link. 2. DHCP-prefix delegation is used to tell the home gateway "this is your routed block." | |
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jjmb
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2011-Nov-9 12:41 pm
Re: Will users get a /48 or a /64said by whfsdude:said by fifty nine:A /48 should be standard for end users quite honestly. It allows multiple subnets for a guest zone for example. This is the first phased of the trial. All signs point to the following as the actual setup for how things will work when this thing goes full scale. 1. Devices get DHCP /128 point to point w/ a routed /64 to that client side of point to point link. 2. DHCP-prefix delegation is used to tell the home gateway "this is your routed block." At a high level this is accurate, for more information be sure to visit » www.comcast6.net. John | |
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Re: Will users get a /48 or a /64So a quick review of the site reveals the astounding lack of IPv6 in on the business side. Only a single router supports it and doesn't support a VOIP conneciton.
So when is Comcast going to fix the business routers so that IPv6 is available to us? | |
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Re: Will users get a /48 or a /64Yeah - a /64 to start. We'll do different prefix lengths over time but it takes a bit of backend work that is still in process. | |
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A /48 should not be standard for home end users, a /56 or /60 maybe.
A /56 provides 256 /64's, I think that is more than enough subnets for a guest zone or two.
No one needs 65,536 /64's at home. Especially since the subnet assignments will still be dynamic through DCHPv6. | |
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cowboyro
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2011-Nov-9 11:36 am
Sweet...Now my fridge can have it's own public IP address... and the vacuum cleaner too!!! | |
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FFH5
Premium Member
2011-Nov-9 11:43 am
I'm all set to goWhen they finally hit my area, I'm all set to go. OS, router, cable modem all IPV6 ready. Just need Comcast to implement the CM piece. | |
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| newviewEx .. Ex .. Exactly Premium Member join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD |
newview
Premium Member
2011-Nov-9 12:32 pm
Re: I'm all set to gosaid by FFH5:OS, router, cable modem all IPV6 ready. Which router did you get that's IPV6 ready ? | |
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FFH5
Premium Member
2011-Nov-9 12:36 pm
Re: I'm all set to gosaid by newview:said by FFH5:OS, router, cable modem all IPV6 ready. Which router did you get that's IPV6 ready ? Netgear wndr3700 v1 Hardware Version WNDR3700 Firmware Version V1.0.16.98-dnsNA GUI Language Version V1.0.0.64 To get IPV6 I had to upgrade firmware from the Netgear site to the version listed above. | |
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jjmb
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2011-Nov-9 12:44 pm
Re: I'm all set to goYou should watch » www.comcast6.net for more information about routers we test for use with IPv6. This will help to ensure what you select works seamlessly on the Comcast network. John | |
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newview
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2011-Nov-9 12:53 pm
Re: I'm all set to gosaid by jjmb:You should watch »www.comcast6.net for more information about routers we test for use with IPv6. This will help to ensure what you select works seamlessly on the Comcast network. I took a look there and didn't see anything specifically mentioning any router testing ... are you saying that will be upcoming? | |
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Re: I'm all set to gosaid by newview:said by jjmb:You should watch »www.comcast6.net for more information about routers we test for use with IPv6. This will help to ensure what you select works seamlessly on the Comcast network. I took a look there and didn't see anything specifically mentioning any router testing ... are you saying that will be upcoming? We will provide guidance on recommended routers. TBD what site that will be. | |
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SergeyE
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2011-Nov-9 1:29 pm
Re: I'm all set to goJason,
When you do the ipv6 router testing, it'd be nice if you include SamKnows devices (they do support ipv6) in that effort. The ones of us in that program do not have an option of swapping their router out, unless we quit the program altogether. | |
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My Netgear WNR 3500L has IPV6 in it's last few updates in its firmware. | |
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IowaMan Premium Member join:2008-08-21 Grinnell, IA |
IowaMan
Premium Member
2011-Nov-9 1:13 pm
I can hear Tier 1 nowMam/Sir Your operating system is too old for use on our network. Please upgrade for technology 's sake. | |
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Anon
2011-Nov-9 1:26 pm
Re: I can hear Tier 1 nowFrom my cold dead token ring | |
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Re: I can hear Tier 1 nowDead is right. You'd be scrounging at the thrift stores and junk yards for token ring adapters these days. | |
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
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said by IowaMan:Mam/Sir Your operating system is too old for use on our network. Please upgrade for technology 's sake. Thats when i dump my isp. the only way you'll get my XP is to pry it from my cold deathgrip. | |
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Anon
2011-Nov-9 1:14 pm
MacOS SupportSo MacOS 10.7 Lion will be "supported", what about 10.6 Snow Leopard and 10.5 Leopard?
What about Mobile/Multimedia devices? Up to the end user? | |
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My Debian router is all ready for IPv6!Yep! I'm talking about my x86 server that I currently have. A Linux server as a router should have wide-dhcpv6-client and wide-dhcpv6-server installed. Linux clients should have wide-dhcpv6-client installed. Me? Mine's all ready to go! Of course, I'm a Debian freak. *chuckles* | |
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For single PCs onlyquote: How will you enable support for IPv6 in this first phase? In our first phase of deployment, we will enable IPv6 on selected standalone computers. This is the case when a customer has just one computer, and where that computer is plugged directly into a cable modem. We will begin with a small number of DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem models (see those modems noted as IPv6-ready at »mydeviceinfo.comcast.net), which will expand over time. However, Comcast does not directly enable IPv6 functionality on end user systems as this depends upon the capabilities of that computer's operating system. The current major consumer operating systems capable of this are Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion).
Hmm.... Sadly I would like to tell anyone who is plugging their pc directly into the network they should invest in a firewall device... I wonder how many of these pcs are the ones infected with viruses because they have the firewall turned off, no AV installed, and no passwords set. | |
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