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FFH5
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2006-Jan-3 10:11 am
Re: Hmm....I agree. But people have to realize that most ISP's will NOT route IPV6 on their networks. So this makes this a tool to test out and become conversant with IPV6 strictly on a home LAN. Unless of course you are plugged into Internet/2 on a university or government system. They also make users aware that this could make their systems much less secure. So, if you experiment be prepared to get up to speed on security that doesn't depend on NAT firewalls. | |
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| Done_PostingShoot to kill
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I agree! I wish we had IPv6 widely adopted; the ISP I work for has constant issues with IP contentions (read: five to ten reported a day in a network of 65,000... still pretty annoying though) due to weird DHCP and also customers setting up static all the time. With IPv6, we could say bye-bye to DHCP!
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2006-Jan-3 12:54 pm
Re: Hmm....thats what you think. DHCP will become even bigger of a part. It could even be integrated with AD so that a user gets their same IP wherever they login. The future is NOT more static, its more dynamic. | |
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2006-Jan-3 10:17 am
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"The consequences of NAT are especially serious in the realm of peer-to-peer computing, where core services rely upon peers addressing other peers directly, without the need for mediating servers in the middle. We wanted to restore end-to-end to the Internet. Hence the IPv6-enabled firmware work. "
Hmmm, better end-to-end, is this going to help everyone share (without servers) easier and perhaps faster? Or will this eliminate the excuse "someone got on my wireless router and downloaded that song... not me" | |
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2006-Jan-3 12:55 pm
Re: Hmm....The whole point of IPv6 is that we no longer need NAT. NAT isnt a security device, it was implimented in the late 90s as one prong of a 3 part solution to extend the ipv4 life until ipv6 was available. Once IPv6 is here, NAT will not be acceptable, and OS's will have to get their crap in gear and close all those ports and security problems. | |
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The thing is, nobody *really* cares about IPv6.
Why do I say that? Well, there's only been about ten topics posted in IPv6 forum here.
That just tells me that it's really not on many peoples minds, or they just don't care right now.
I'm sure eventually we'll get to IPv6, and you'll see many more topics posted in that forum when that time comes as well. | |
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Hmmm, better end-to-end, is this going to help everyone share (without servers) easier and perhaps faster? Or will this eliminate the excuse "someone got on my wireless router and downloaded that song... not me"
An interesting point. I forsee an era where the social security number is replaced by a never changing IPv6 address. As I understand it (I'm no IP engineer), with IPv6, every object in the world could have its own permanent IP addy with no fear of running out any time soon. If I'm correct, then the social security number scenario seems fairly plausible. That would certainly put a crimp in anonymity for P2P... - Tate | |
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Re: TateThey said nobody would ever use all the IPv4 addresses either.
There could easily be scalability problems with IPv6 yet. I want everyone to realize that, and that it won't be an end-all answer to everything. It's a constant process of vigilence.
Just wait until every device and appliance has an IP. And every light switch. And every pet tag. As more and more people gain access as the population grows. | |
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Re: Tatesaid by Primis1:Just wait until every device and appliance has an IP. And every light switch. And every pet tag. As more and more people gain access as the population grows. That does sound plausible, but with RFID tags, the need to have every light switch with its own IPv6 # becomes irrelevant. At any rate, the simpler solution to that is to control those simple devices using an AC switchboard controlled by an old Intel 8086 PC. | |
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| JimF
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said by Done_Posting: I forsee an era where the social security number is replaced by a never changing IPv6 address. As I understand it (I'm no IP engineer), with IPv6, every object in the world could have its own permanent IP addy with no fear of running out any time soon. If I'm correct, then the social security number scenario seems fairly plausible. That would certainly put a crimp in anonymity for P2P... I have long thought the same thing. It will probably be sold first as a permanent phone number that will allow people to reach you by Internet (including VOIP) anywhere in the world. And after a big terrorism attack the public will actually demand it for authentication purposes. All the complaints by those concerned about privacy will be quickly forgotten. I am not advocating any of this, but I think it will happen, for a variety of reasons. The next step thereafter will be to associate the IPV6 address with your DNA or other biometric, for authentication purposes. Welcome to the new world. | |
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|  rchandraStargate Universe fan
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said by Done_Posting: As I understand it (I'm no IP engineer), with IPv6, every object in the world could have its own permanent IP addy with no fear of running out any time soon. Referring to The BBR IPv6 FAQ pages, With IPv6, it is even harder to conceive that the IPv6 address space will be consumed. To help put this number in perspective, a 128-bit address space provides 655,570,793,348,866,943,898,599 (6.5 × 10^23) addresses for every square meter of the Earth's surface. I find it hard to conceive of needing that many addresses in one square meter. | |
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Re: Tatewhen the ATA interface was first designed, they set it to 128 bit because they could never fathom ever needing that much hard drive space
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2006-Jan-3 4:55 pm
Re: TatePerhaps...but trillions of addresses, even per square kilometer? Hmmmmm...I guess each of my cells will be individually addressible  . Also, I might add I think the suppositions in the original statement seem to be off. Just like IPv4, IPv6 has a lot of addresses reserved for special meanings. For example, most are familiar with the 127/8 loopback network, the most common example being 127.0.0.1. IPv6 similarly has ::1. So while the address space might work out to sextillions of addresses per square meter of the Earth's surface, considerably fewer will actually be used (I guess you might call it "practical addressibility density") | |
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Re: Tatewhatever random number they pick, at some point some technological jump is going to come along and make it obsolete | |
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Re: WinkThey only have this special firmware sauce for the Linksys WRT54G and not in the GS or GL flavors? Well that kinda sux!  Maybe we'll start to see the transition to IPv6 with most ISPs in the 2010's and we can only hope it happens. IPv4 is starting to choke us all in its little claustrophobic box! | |
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Re: WinkThe GL is just a rebranded (and more expensive) G v4 so there shouldn't be problem. | |
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2006-Jan-3 12:07 pm
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2006-Jan-3 12:42 pm
Re: repostWas it only five months? I was thinking it was over a year ago. Regardless this is old news. | |
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I thought I was having Deja vu!  | |
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Re: repostThey are updating the news.. Items: A) Acquire a publicly routeable /64 IPv6 prefix. B) Provide IPv6 addresses from that prefix to hosts on the home network. C) Route IPv6 home network traffic to the greater IPv6 Internet. D) Forums. said by digiblur:I thought I was having Deja vu! Question: What is Deja vu? | |
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2006-Jan-3 5:47 pm
NAT is goodthey better keep NAT, as ISPs could charge per computer, where now they can only charge for one and then NAT works to distribute to 253 computers, and NAT is so easy to one step security. Either I am hanging onto IPv4 until my ISP shuts it off, or I am going to use NAT on IPv6, if it is available. | |
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The final version of v23 of DD-WRT also apparently supports IPv6 although I've never tried it out or tested it. | |
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Maybe we'll start to see the transition to IPv6 with most ISPs in the 2010's and we can only hope it happens. IPv4 is starting to choke us all in its little claustrophobic box!
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