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I hope notI hope they aren't slowing down deployment. I would sign up for it in a heartbeat. |
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Wrong Location ThenCome run your fiber all over rural areas that Verizon doesn't give two craps about and I bet you can increase those numbers Google. |
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Luke_Its all in your head join:2015-08-27 Tempe, AZ 2 edits
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Luke_
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2016-Aug-25 12:51 pm
Projecting faulty numbersIMO, the company was expecting more subs because they themselves being techies know that the idea of gigabit fiber for 70 bucks is great. What they miscalculated is the majority of people just arn't techies. They don't know the difference between coax, dsl, fiber. They don't know what a megabit is. Some people barely know how to turn on their computers. And others just don't like change or just don't care. So while people who work at places like Google and the folks on this forum would jump on the idea of Google Fiber in an instant and know neighbors that will, its not the case for everyone. |
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They are the problem.its on them. they refuse to go to areas that would have a ton of people sign up. Come to long island where we have a big population and only 1 company for internet access. |
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karpodiemHail to The Victors Premium Member join:2008-05-20 Troy, MI 1 edit
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karpodiem
Premium Member
2016-Aug-25 12:31 pm
Difficult tasks that take time and dont scale are sometimes worth doingSerious strategic mistake by Google, if they're completely abandoning FTTH in new (not previously announced) deployments.
I'm calling it now, bookmark this in your Google Calendar - 5G will be a flop, relative to the expectation that it can deliver a ballpark ~1TB a month for a residence. It isn't strong enough 4K or 8K video delivery over IP - only FTTH is.
Fiber is the only future proof technology. |
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alchav join:2002-05-17 Saint George, UT
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alchav
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2016-Aug-25 3:20 pm
The Average Person doesn't care about Fiber....They want Cheap Internet!!!The Average Person doesn't want to pay more than $50/mo, and probably most no more than $25. So people are still looking for Cheap Internet, they don't even care if it's Fiber or just plain Copper. Like I said, Fiber should be clean and run underground in Conduit not on Poles. So Google is running into all kinds of obstacles, and the deployment is just getting too costly. Reality has set in, and Google is rethinking their strategy. |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again......Google Fiber is not a real business. Not a real business like Comcast or AT&T is a real business.
They're either a hobby, or a publicity stunt, or a scientific experiment. But they're not a business that is going out and trying to provide a service in the market and make a competitive return on investment.
Now, with the latest news of their troubles, perhaps there is some indication that they are changing, and becoming a real business.
FTTH is hard, a lot harder than the average DSLReports commenter thinks it is. |
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I called itGoogle Fiber is nothing more than one of Google's projects that the company will dump when their plans don't pan out.
This company never gives anything a chance.
Verizon didn't build the largest network with most subscribers overnight. That title belong to AT&T for many years.
Did Verizon give up? NO! |
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tshirt Premium Member join:2004-07-11 Snohomish, WA
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tshirt
Premium Member
2016-Aug-25 12:33 pm
reality stikes home.......maybe they won't give up, but they finally seem to recognize that it isn't as cheap or easy as they hoped. There still is a need for their efforts, but they need to adjust their goals and prices to better reflect what any of the cablecos could have told them on day one: It takes years to roll out, even under the friendliest of conditions, and billion$ sunk in, and years more to build market share even when the ubiquitous telcos offer little product to compare/compete with. The Trouble is partly by culture and partly by PR required to keep stock prices high Google/ABC goes big or goes home. Can they accept that this is a LONG term major investment, without a sensational windfall for tomorrows news or will they begin to roll up the tents and move to better pastures/other products? |
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Sorry to hear thisAnything that takes the pressure off the other ISPs to invest in upgraded speeds is double plus ungood. |
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mc510
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2016-Aug-25 1:46 pm
Sad but not surprisingSad but not surprising news. The economics of overbuilding fiber are just incredibly difficult in territories in which the cableco has a very well developed fiber/coax hybrid system. Which is to say, most of the urban/suburban parts of the nation. And the economics of building *anything*, much less overbuilding, in rural areas are just 1000x tougher. It's time to remind ourselves of what we knew before telecom deregulation: residential networks of communications lines are a natural monopoly. You only need one set of wire/fiber infrastructure, and it needs to be regulated as a monopoly.
And I'd offer one correction to Karl's reporting on this news, where he refers to Google's "attempts to bring broadband competition to a broken duopoly market." Maybe it once was a broken duopoly market. What it is now is an unregulated monopoly market (in which the cableco is the monopoly provider of high speed internet) with some bit players dinking around at the margins (microscopic bits of telco fiber, microscopic bits of municipal/private fiber overbuild, microscopic bits of high speed wireless, lots and lots of low speed copper-wire internet) |
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My opinionI think most that know how the industry works knew that this is/was likely not going to work out as they had hoped.
They are even getting sweet deals from cities compared to the Telco and Cable Co's and still are struggling?
The 5G options (or millimeter wifi, whatever you want to call it) is going to be a flop also. Your still going to be running fiber up to the houses for backhaul of the wifi and deal with the nuances of wireless. Wireless that SUCKS at penetration and range. Good luck. |
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buildThe trick is to build out in areas not already heavily serviced by the duopoly first.. If you want a higher adaptation rate.. Alotta folks are locked into two year contracts too so its harder for them to just jump on over... Me, if google fiber came into the area i'd be on board asap. It won't though cause the pie charts disagree with my claims..
If you build it, they will subscribe.. But no, lets do the insanity plead and keep doing the same crap over and over and over expecting different results.. Its like voting for a politician known for lying and "forgetting" rules (sound familiar?) and expect good things... |
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