  Z80A
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2010-May-13 2:28 pm
So what...Call us when it goes retail for less than a zillion $$$ per month. | |
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2010-May-13 2:30 pm
Re: So what...and it will come with a 60GB BCE labeling cap | |
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"connected to the Los Angeles headend "
So does that mean DOCSIS 3 is coming to southern cal? | |
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56403739 (banned)
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2010-May-13 4:19 pm
Re: So what...I was just thinking the same thing. Until it can be ordered retail, it doesn't exist. | |
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said by mromero:"connected to the Los Angeles headend " So does that mean DOCSIS 3 is coming to southern cal? only to the sony building so they can really up the DOS attacks on torrent sites | |
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So that's why my speeds have been so crappy lately.
I'd expect it to only be where FiOS is deployed | |
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|  Omega
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2010-May-13 2:34 pm
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Comes with a 25GB cap and $5/GB overage charges. | |
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Re: So what...said by Omega:Comes with a 25GB cap and $5/MB overage charges. fixed it. | |
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A zillion, thats all!! I thought the monthly fee would be a bazillion! | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come
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said by Z80A:Call us when it goes retail for less than a zillion $$$ per month. and in non fios areas | |
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said by Z80A:Call us when it goes retail for less than a zillion $$$ per month. FIOS or fiber internet is 100mbit,1gb and 10gb so far fiber only use the lowest of its potential cable is a joke. still trying to stipulate faster alternative pitiful coaxial suppose to be used for cable television only 50/5 100/10 with a caps of 30 to 100gb what utter failure on their part to deliver fast unlimited connection for all of us. we the customer need to vote with our pocket money where it count the most not buy into their lies or hypes. | |
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Time Warner Cable Demonstates 290 Mbps Cablewe need that speed down here at spi but only if the price is less then $50 bux a month then it will be cool | |
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yeaThey should test that speed in actual cities where more then one user is active....290 will become 20. I bet this will cost about $500 per month. | |
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Re: yea290/90 for $500 would make an awesome business class connection. | |
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I agree, my old company was paying thousands for their DS3 which only gave us 45/45 Mbps. 290/90 Mbps for even $1,000 a month would be a sweet deal.
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said by iansltx:290/90 for $500 would make an awesome business class connection. its call marketing the best u will get from time warner is 100/5 for a measly 99.99 a month lol with limited usage of 100gb woohooo i am loving 100mbit with caps so i can't use much! | |
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Re: yeaTWC has backed off of caps since they got their fingers burned awhile back.
Also, their current tier is UNLIMITED 50/5 for $100 per month but it sounds like they may change this in the face of fiber sooner or later. | |
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Let's be realistic...For THAT speed I think $50.00 is waaaaaaaayyyyy too low. Now $99.00 per month... I could get behind that one. | |
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2010-May-13 2:41 pm
Re: Let's be realistic...I could understand $99.00 resi (something like 250 / 25) and 500.00 business (275 - 290 / 75 - 90) with traffic prioritization between the two to settle up priority on who gets what speeds during congestion. To me, that is fair. | |
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Re: Let's be realistic...AFAIK, the twc headend is in Culver City,CA, right above a hill i live near. It has a big radio tower and some satellites, and a small building where the head end equipment is stored. TWC cable still sucks though, customer service and pricing is not that good. | |
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2010-May-13 6:25 pm
Re: Let's be realistic...said by billydunwood:AFAIK, the twc headend is in Culver City,CA, right above a hill i live near. It has a big radio tower and some satellites, and a small building where the head end equipment is stored. TWC cable still sucks though, customer service and pricing is not that good. I'm work in Culver City. Where exactly is this? At home's location, the local TWC office has a giant dish (seen it during Adelphia days too). | |
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Re: Let's be realistic...Off of Duquesne Ave there is the Culver City Park. Up the park is Bill Botts Field(baseball fields) and there is a red and white radio tower. That's where it is. | |
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2010-May-13 7:50 pm
Re: Let's be realistic...said by billydunwood:Off of Duquesne Ave there is the Culver City Park. Up the park is Bill Botts Field(baseball fields) and there is a red and white radio tower. That's where it is. OK, I think I see it on Google Maps' aerial view. Thanks! | |
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Re: Let's be realistic...np. You can't access fully to the tower, but if you go to the baseball fields, you can get a close enough look. yet again google always works  | |
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If they are saying 22 miles away, then this cannot be from the culver city/baldwin hills CMTS. Culver City is not that far from Downtown LA. 22 miles is more like the Hacienda Heights/City of Industy headend that must have been used? | |
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2010-May-14 8:54 am
Re: Let's be realistic...said by CJ777:If they are saying 22 miles away, then this cannot be from the culver city/baldwin hills CMTS. Culver City is not that far from Downtown LA. 22 miles is more like the Hacienda Heights/City of Industy headend that must have been used? Reread what I said. Work vs. home locations. | |
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2010-May-16 6:05 am
Re: Let's be realistic...Antdude, you totally read my post wrong! I am talking about what the cable co. has said here: "Time Warner Cable is demonstrating 290 Mbps downstream and 90 Mbps upstream cable broadband at The Cable Show in Los Angeles. The demo uses an Arris CMTS and cable modems from both Arris and Motorola -- connected to the Los Angeles headend -- using 8 x 4 channel bonding. "This is the first time these speeds have been shown outside of labs," says a TWC spokesman of the demo. Time Warner Cable says they were responding to recent a recent Alcatel Lucent announcement of 300 Mbps DSL -- which may or may not ever actually make it out into the real world. "What they’ve got is something in the lab that goes 10 feet, and what we’re showing is live from our headend 22 miles away," says the company"
My point is: from downtown LA to culver city headend is only like 9 miles. They are saying 22 miles, so they either are referring to City of Industry or some other CMTS in their demonstration. | |
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wait, are you saying that that place I was talking about in culver city is the headend? I was only 90% sure. | |
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2010-May-16 5:59 am
Re: Let's be realistic...Not that small bldg on the google map, but the location that is next to the 405 frwy, same location as the baldwin hills cable store. | |
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Re: Let's be realistic...What is that small building and big radio tower? When I looked at the ownership of the tower, it said it was owned by Time Warner Cable. It looks like a mini headend | |
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said by tdouglas22:For THAT speed I think $50.00 is waaaaaaaayyyyy too low. Now $99.00 per month... I could get behind that one. I pay $99/month for a 25/2 line. No way they would offer 290/90 for $100/month. $150/month would be a good deal for it though. Right now a 100/5 line here is $150. | |
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290Mbps......between how many users?? | |
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Re: 290Mbps...about 1.04827586 LOL :\
D3@8 channels, 38*8 = 304Mb
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cdru
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2010-May-13 6:34 pm
Re: 290Mbps...said by kevin_pink:about 1.04827586 LOL :\ D3@8 channels, 38*8 = 304Mb This is absurd.... It's along the same lines as a BPON or GPON FTTH operator saying they can achieve some obscene speed if they dedicate all their bandwidth on a node to a single customer. Maybe when they can deliver a fraction of that that speed to more then a couple customers consistently they can have something to talk about. | |
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2010-May-13 3:02 pm
This goes hand in hand with | |
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2010-May-13 3:11 pm
Color me skepticalCustomers such as myself, won't be seeing these speeds, and if it someday does become an optional tier, it will likely be 10-15 years from now, and will cost well over $200/month. And the other ISP's will likely have something comparable or better for much cheaper. | |
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That's great...Meanwhile, they can't even break 290Kbps in my area.
The over provisioning and line noise is getting so bad here it's starting to affect digital channels now. | |
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Re: That's great...said by SmD Frylock:Meanwhile, they can't even break 290Kbps in my area. The over provisioning and line noise is getting so bad here it's starting to affect digital channels now. Yeah I know. Back at home I get 2/.5 mbits from Time Warner. Right now I'm in Japan getting 6/.5mbit *internationally* on a WiMAX connection. When wireless flat out beats wired, you know something is wrong. In fact TWC hasn't deployed DOCSIS 3.0 to anyone outside of New York. It's ridiculous how utterly sociopathic they are. Without any competition they'll be demonstrating multigigabit over coax in 10 years while still riding along on DOCSIS 1 throughout their entire footprint. | |
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Re: That's great...said by sonicmerlin:said by SmD Frylock:Meanwhile, they can't even break 290Kbps in my area. The over provisioning and line noise is getting so bad here it's starting to affect digital channels now. Yeah I know. Back at home I get 2/.5 mbits from Time Warner. Right now I'm in Japan getting 6/.5mbit *internationally* on a WiMAX connection. When wireless flat out beats wired, you know something is wrong. In fact TWC hasn't deployed DOCSIS 3.0 to anyone outside of New York. It's ridiculous how utterly sociopathic they are. Without any competition they'll be demonstrating multigigabit over coax in 10 years while still riding along on DOCSIS 1 throughout their entire footprint. what do you call someone who don't offer you what is advertised? | |
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22 miles of coax? Cool"What they’ve got is something in the lab that goes 10 feet, and what we’re showing is live from our headend 22 miles away,"
So they're using 22 miles of coax? Or are they doing the same thing as DSL and going 21.5 miles on fiber and the rest on copper? | |
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2010-May-13 6:05 pm
Re: 22 miles of coax? CoolIt's an HFC network. Fiber nodes are out in neighborhoods that backhaul the coax signals over fiber to the headend. It's how HFC has worked for almost 20 years. | |
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Re: 22 miles of coax? CoolI know. It's the same way remote DSL networks have worked for a long time as well.
I was taking a shot at his incorrect maligning of DSL. | |
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I wonder if this is cause of LA problemsMany RR users in the Los Angeles area have been having problems for the past couple of months. And the past week, pings have gone to hell. I wonder if there is any relation? | |
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2010-May-13 6:28 pm
Re: I wonder if this is cause of LA problemssaid by homers0:Many RR users in the Los Angeles area have been having problems for the past couple of months. And the past week, pings have gone to hell. I wonder if there is any relation? More than a couple months for me!  | |
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2010-May-13 4:07 pm
Yeah Right!I basically agree with most of what's been said in this thread so far. I can't even get an answer about when TWC intends to roll out DOCSIS 3 in my area (central Texas). Meanwhile Comcast has already deployed DOCSIS 3 to 90% of their users. Not that Comcast is any great shakes either, but TWC lags so far behind the pack (except in markets where they have competition) that pronouncements like these just make me laugh. As others have said....call me back when they actually deploy it to everyone...at a reasonable price. Ask 'em when multi-room DVRs are coming??? it's all BS, and since TWC is the only game in town where I am...I'm stuck with them. Oh yeah...one of the techs I spoke with trumpeted the fact that they have wi-fi available in my area and most other areas don't yet have it.....thrilling...they offer an overpriced, useless (to me) service that I don't want or need, and try to show me that they really DO care about small markets like mine....what a load of horse manure! | |
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33358088 (banned)
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2010-May-13 4:37 pm
its only for the Hollywood execs guysyou peasants can pay for 5 megabit for the rest of humanities existence
they will use this to dos anyone that wants some....
oh and yacht builders and anyone with a net worth over 5 billion
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Re: its only for the Hollywood execs guysUhh, if you're talking about MediaDefender they have several GIGABITS at their disposal. According to HE, their IP space is part of Revelation Networks: » bgp.he.net/AS26821Torrent sites tend to be on 100 Mbps or gigabit anyway, decentralized, etc. so a 90 Mbps DOS DEFINITELY wouldn't take 'em down. Also, TWC offers 15/2 here, for $50 per month. Not rip-roaring fast but the price is right and the speeds are decent. Definitely not 5 Mbps  | |
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fix your CURRENT needs!a SYMMETRIC 50/50 megabits is what's needed NOW, not next near, next decade!! even if they've got channel bonding working in the OUTSIDE PLANT, tell me what last mile coax are they using? and if that's any different than the real last mile, you're screwed.. because it simply WON'T WORK MORONS!
Next, start charging prices out of the stratosphere for a 50/50 megabit plan or go home, these headlines get as tiresome as some new cooked up scheme to make DSL sound like fiber.. | |
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business connection.I would pay 500 dollars a month for a 290mbps connection for business connection. | |
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2010-May-13 5:48 pm
How aboutCall me a pessimist but instead of basically going back and forth between these company's bragging about how big there dick is maybe we worry about wiring every single person in our country first with a measly 5/5 connection,then we can talk about crazy speeds. | |
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Re: How aboutEasy: it's cheaper to upgrade ten households to 8x4 D3 than it is to serve one with new coax/fiber. So only the visionary providers (NOT AT&T/Verizon...these days/Frontier/Windstream/etc.) are doing that outside of greenfield developments, which aren't going up like they used to.
This is from someone whose parents are limited to 1.5/384 DSL (at least it's reliable!) and who has one choice for more than 5 Mbps down and 700 kbps up at his apartment right next to school (10 Gbps pipe, 1 Gbps between buildings, 100 Mbps Ethernet to most PCs, gigabit to a few): Comcast. | |
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OverkillNever mind a residential line, 290 Mbps would be overkill for almost all small businesses and a lot of medium sized businesses. I work for a small ISP (2500 customers) and the most we usually peak up to at night is 100-110 Mbps down. We offer speeds ranging from 256kbps to 7Mbps but we don't come close to hitting our max bandwidth (OC3). We're moving our min speeds to 756 and adding another 100 Megs, but even with that we won't be close to 290. | |
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This was a demo peopleThis was a demonstration at a trade show. They are simply showing it is possible to get these speeds over the existing plant. | |
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2010-May-13 7:18 pm
no wonder......my time warner cable internet at home and my mom's time warner cable internet at her house has been going SO SLLLLOOOOWWWWWWW.... i feel like i should be back on ISDN or something i wish i had FiOS at home... too bad i'm in an AT&T area | |
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2010-May-13 9:26 pm
nono money to pay for it sell it to the top 10% the rest have no money good luck with that one speed speed speed no one can afford it well almost no one but can you profit from them | |
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Lock up timeTWC just use it to lock up more file sharing pirates of all stripes. Good. Nail those non-creatives ripping off the TWC customers who pay thru the snoz for half ass speeds and
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Re: Lock up timesaid by sludgehound:TWC just use it to lock up more file sharing pirates of all stripes. Good. Nail those non-creatives ripping off the TWC customers who pay thru the snoz for half ass speeds and reliability. I'll wait for DOCSIS 5.0 By then d/ls will be as common as basic radio or tv. go with their 25.00 lower tier or don't use them at all since they are pretty useful. dont pay throuigh the roof for crappy speed from cable company their never going provide u wat u want. many teenager write with bad spelling and grammar so i imitate for fun O.o  | |
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