Duramax08To The Moon Premium Member join:2008-08-03 San Antonio, TX |
LOL WUTwhats the use of having faster internet? I think a few mb's up and down should be good for everyone. Just watch, In a few months, they are going to say their network is overloaded and then they are gona place caps.
And for me, All i get is dial up and time warner are going to make it faster where people already have high speed internet. why not extend to people who dont have no high speed internet? Im not in the middle of nowhere you know... | |
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| BoogeymanDrive it like you stole it Premium Member join:2002-12-17 Wasilla, AK |
Re: LOL WUTWhat do you mean San Antone isnt in the middle of no where? I mean, its not like you guys have a few major theme parks, a major sports franchise, a major military base(?), Sea World, The Alamo, etc.
Oh, wait...
Seriously though, I just moved to Huntsville, AL, supposedly one of the largest concentrations of engineers and high tech business/manufacturing in the country, and the best I can get out of CC is 8/1. I would think with all the high tech jobs here we'd be getting some of CC's better plans, but then again, at least its 8/1. (And yes, 8/1 is enough for my household, its just that if there were higher tiers, I'd probably pay less for my 8/1) | |
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| | jester121 Premium Member join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL |
Re: LOL WUTsaid by Boogeyman: (And yes, 8/1 is enough for my household, its just that if there were higher tiers, I'd probably pay less for my 8/1) Why on earth would you think that? It certainly doesn't sound like a Comcast strategy to me. | |
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| | | BoogeymanDrive it like you stole it Premium Member join:2002-12-17 Wasilla, AK |
Re: LOL WUTWhen 3/256 was the highest, it was $60 mo, and 1.5/256 was like $50 or so. Then when they went to 6/768 as the highest, they priced it at $60 and moved the 3/256 down to the $50. (Prices are a guess, I cant remember what the exact cost was 5yrs ago)
Though you do have a point, when we signed up for service after we moved, the 8/1 is ~$70mo where as the 6/768 is ~$60mo, and when I lived in Panama City, the 6/768 was ~$60mo. I was just hoping they would continue the previous trend of replacing the previous highest speed with the new highest speed at the same price point. | |
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| | | | jester121 Premium Member join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL |
Re: LOL WUTYou're talking about a moving target though. Comcast's middle of the road offering (the one they advertise on TV, print, etc.) has been in the $40-45 range for as long as I can remember around here, and I've seen similar price points in many other US markets. | |
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| | Duramax08To The Moon Premium Member join:2008-08-03 San Antonio, TX |
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Where i live, everything is around us. The AT&T center is less then 5 miles away from my house, Alot of neighborhoods and all the stores like walmart, gamestop, subway, jack in the b0x, gas stations, and m0ar are like 3 miles away. We got some land with cattle and their is an officer there, Its like 2 miles away and they get time warner cable but what do we get, Power and plain old telephone. I talked to that att guy today and he said he dont know when dsl will be out here. I guess ill just have to wait and look outside every morning and look for some new lines on the telephone pole out on the road........ | |
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| Jim Kirk Premium Member join:2005-12-09 49985 |
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said by Duramax08:whats the use of having faster internet? I think a few mb's up and down should be good for everyone. So is 640KB | |
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said by Duramax08:whats the use of having faster internet? I think a few mb's up and down should be good for everyone. Just watch, In a few months, they are going to say their network is overloaded and then they are gona place caps. And for me, All i get is dial up and time warner are going to make it faster where people already have high speed internet. why not extend to people who dont have no high speed internet? Im not in the middle of nowhere you know... They already have caps. | |
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axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC |
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2008-Sep-9 4:38 pm
perfectly explains why we need more competitionWant to increase broadband speeds? Make sure there is more competition there.
Someone has to make the first move, though. If Verizon hadn't done FIOS, Time Warner could take their sweet time everywhere, and not spend the money on upgrades. The more companies competing, the more likely it is that someone will move first. | |
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2008-Sep-9 4:40 pm
Shame on cherry pickingJust goes to show you how much of a competition FiOS is creating with the cable co's. It's unfortunate that companies can cherry pick which markets they want to deloy their new services and Verizon is no exception with cherry picking FiOS rollouts. | |
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2008-Sep-9 5:59 pm
Re: Shame on cherry pickingi would cherry pick too. why should i spend million and billions of dollars for a service one where if i dont make enough money to pay for it and make some money | |
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| | en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
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2008-Sep-9 6:27 pm
Re: Shame on cherry pickingI tend to agree... they have to make a profit. Why deploy in an unprofitable area ? | |
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Re: Shame on cherry pickingBecause we paid a massive amount of money in taxes to fund their network upgrades, which they never carried through with.
Was around $200b as I remember reading. | |
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Dogfather Premium Member join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA 1 edit |
Gotta love TWCThey're desperate when their selling point against FiOS is that they have an easier to understand bill.
Keep capping, dumbasses. | |
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2008-Sep-9 4:47 pm
HAHLOL! So you can hit their 5gig cap in 3 hours instead of 6! | |
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| hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greed Premium Member join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA |
Re: HAHsaid by halo5:LOL! So you can hit their 5gig cap in 3 hours instead of 6! I just came over from the FIOS forum and some users are claiming that they are gobbling up multiple terabytes of bandwidth up and down. LOL | |
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| | wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY |
Re: HAHsaid by hopeflicker:said by halo5:LOL! So you can hit their 5gig cap in 3 hours instead of 6! I just came over from the FIOS forum and some users are claiming that they are gobbling up multiple terabytes of bandwidth up and down. LOL You may laugh now, but those are the very people who are going to ruin FIOS for us like they did cable. If that keeps up, caps will be imposed without a doubt. | |
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| | | JTRockvilleData Ho Premium Member join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD |
Re: HAHI don't think a pure fiber network like FiOS suffers from the same congestion problems inherent to a hybrid network like cable has.
Either way, those of us with the good fortune to have FiOS may as well enjoy it while we can. | |
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Re: HAHThe same, no as cable is node based. But congestion on a network, yes it can happen regardless of transport.
No matter how they are doing it, if they see people abusing it, especially of all you "online backeruppers, Linux Distro distributers, and daily machine rebuild guys that have to download patches all the time", they will eventually do something as it still cost them.
So yes, you guys that will take all you can as long as you can enjoy your gluttony now. | |
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| | | | | JTRockvilleData Ho Premium Member join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD |
Re: HAHSure, congestion can happen on any network. Even with seriously heavy use, I think it would be really hard (maybe even impossible) for a single subscriber to severly disrupt service for other subscribers on a pure fiber network like what happens on a hybrid cable network.
Keep in mind, cost isn't the reason Comcast has given over the years for implementing the cap. Then again, how much is a liar's word worth?
* still puzzled about why heavy users are call abusers * | |
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| | | | Vchat20Landing is the REAL challenge Premium Member join:2003-09-16 Columbus, OH |
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The local FiOS network may not, but the interconnect to the internet certainly will in short order and will be the EXACT reason to throw in caps. | |
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| en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
en102
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2008-Sep-9 6:30 pm
Re: power boost sucks assholeAre you in an AT&T area (like Santa Clarita is?) | |
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| | Anonymous_Anonymous Premium Member join:2004-06-21 127.0.0.1 1 edit |
Re: power boost sucks assholesaid by en102:Are you in an AT&T area (like Santa Clarita is?) yea ADSL & VDSL in the area east side VZ FIOS in the west side CMTS is located in palmdale that CMTS serves both sides of palmdale that is a +! | |
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2008-Sep-9 10:36 pm
Re: power boost sucks assholeI have no idea of where the CMTS is in Santa Clarita, however, ALL of Santa Clarita is AT&T with Uverse VRADs everywhere. San Fernando Valley is a little mixed... VZ in North Hills, AT&T in Northridge. | |
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Re: power boost sucks assholeyour CMTS is in
Thousand Oaks (guesstament) | |
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2008-Sep-10 12:05 am
Re: power boost sucks assholePalmdale is much closer than T.O.... as is the San Fernando Valley. I think that area was former Adelphia anyways. | |
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Re: power boost sucks assholedo a tracert to my ip i sent it in a PM | |
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why havent you switched ISP's? -- u NEVER answer that question | |
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Re: power boost sucks assholesaid by aparis99:why havent you switched ISP's? -- u NEVER answer that question at&t is spyware | |
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LOL!!! well if you arent going to switch then stop being anal about every little packet, trace route, etc. It really doesnt get you anywhere and none of us here can reconfigure the ISP's backbones across the country so you have a better ping! its not gonna happen
I HATE paying for gas, but i HAVE TO so i dont really complain about it! I HATE alot of the things the government does but its not going to change so i dont say alot there either | |
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2008-Sep-9 5:20 pm
A-holeThis asshole CEO just shows you what an unbelievably shitty company Time Warner is. What a tool! | |
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Just Visiting
Anon
2008-Sep-9 5:31 pm
Not for Nothing Who said Verizon is putting FIOS all over the place ???
They "dumped" 3 states so they would not have to upgrade the Outside Plant...........
Go take your Cisco Pill....
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BHNtechXpertThe One & Only Premium Member join:2006-02-16 Saint Petersburg, FL |
Seriously Karlbut hasn't stated when. Until then, Hobbs says they'll counter FiOS by locking customers into "price for life" triple play bundle promotions (on top of pretending they offer last mile fiber and picking on the FiOS name). Seriously Karl...once again you have injected your pro FIOS/Telco opinion. Kindly stick to the facts and report the story and nothing but the story. Ordinarily I don't like to respond to such things but recently you have gone way beyond what even I can tolerate. Both sides have valid advantages and disadvantages, each to be decided by their respective customers. Your increasingly obvious sniping is not only very unprofesssional but in this case just isn't true. | |
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2008-Sep-9 6:16 pm
speed uphaha hilarious. even little player rcn in nyc has faster cable modem than time warner. i get 20mpbs rather than over subscribed road runner on a saturated node. all my friends have time warner cable and hate it. we're all just waiting for fios. | |
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lawsuit timeThis is criteria for a judge to invalidate the franchise/public utility permission/ROW access of TWC since this obviously isn't for the "public benefit". | |
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
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2008-Sep-10 12:15 am
O RLY?big surprise. the haves get the sweet deals that the havenots subsidize. | |
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2008-Sep-10 12:21 am
No surprise TWC is cheapLet competition run its route. The only way U.S. internet speeds will ever be up to global standards is if ISPs continue to increase available in-home bandwidth. As far as TWC upgrades are concerned "Surgical" couldn't describe their tactics any better. Currently in Ohio, I have sat back the last couple years and watch TWC bandwidth increase everywhere but here, because plain and simple there is no other competition in the state. Although Ohio currently has TWCs powerboost giving me speedtest results of roughly: 30mbps/768k, I think we're the only state left that does not have a 1mbps upload speed. From what I have heard TWC does not support file sharing, but at the same time, keeps their upload speeds lower than other ISPs. This is to ensure them that their customers are not the ones sourcing files to be shared, therefore not making them legally liable. So I am fine with their download as much as you want, just don't source attitude, but if they ever release DOCIS 3.0 you can bet there will definitely be bandwidth caps. By the way I like to thank Comcast for starting what will soon be a downward spiral effect on internet users nation wide. | |
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2008-Sep-10 12:50 am
Makes sense...A nationwide, simultaneous, DOCSIS 3 upgrade would be insanely expensive. So you gotta start somewhere -- why not start where there is the most competition? It's hard to figure how they should enact a bad business strategy that would potentially hurt their ability to compete. It's kind of unreasonable to say, no you can't upgrade in a place where you can maximize your profits, or maintain them, instead you should start somewhere that won't effect your bottom line at all. If TWC was losing a lot of subs in these highly competitive areas they would be less money in the budget to do more DOCSIS 3.0 upgrades in other areas. | |
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Anon
2008-Sep-10 6:12 am
Hello..................... Yes, and Verizon is putting FIOS into 100% of their remaining foorprint...............
(Hold your breath), take your Cisco pill
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Anon
2008-Sep-14 8:59 am
Re: Hello.....................This whole article is biased...........
What I mean is that not only is Verizon cherry picking areas they deploy to, they sold off entire states.
(not to mention they have perfected a billing system that bills long after you disconnected)
Dont pick on Verizon, they few remaining employees will have hurt feelings | |
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tmc8080
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2008-Sep-10 10:27 am
slower speed=fewer customers & lower priceFios triple play now starts at 20/20 megabit. For TWC to compete with that, they either have to slash their price... or upgrade to support beyond the limits of docsis 2.0, there's just no two ways about it.. voip won't save them from telco's fttp. Internet is the hook that brings in customers... not phone, not tv. | |
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