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eagle2012
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2011-Aug-22 2:28 pm
morons...$30 - 2GB
$20 - 300MB
There is something wrong with this math.... | |
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Re: morons...Only if you are dumb enough to pick the $20 plan. | |
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2011-Aug-22 4:01 pm
Re: morons...said by battleop:Only if you are dumb enough to pick the $20 plan.
It's not dumb if you want a smartphone and you have no use for data. You're saving $120 a year. A family of 4 saves $480 a year. How is that dumb? | |
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Re: morons...I can't believe we're still measuring data plans in Megabytes... | |
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Pretty smart on Verizon's part. Most people dont know the difference between a GB and MB. However, when they see their overages after the first month they will be happy to sign up for the 2GB plan.  | |
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Re: morons...Verizon Wireless is pretty good about backdating plan upgrades if you run into overages.
I could almost get away with this plan (not that I'd give up my grandfathered unlimited...) if I wasn't using Pandora all the time. My non-Pandora data usage is less than 100MB a month. All of the other big stuff (app downloads/upgrades, etc.) I already do on wi-fi because it's faster.
Pandora streaming in the car consumes the bulk of my wireless data. | |
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|  Smith6612
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I agree. There is certainly the smell of money in that math. | |
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2011-Aug-22 3:53 pm
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They force you to pay higher price than the cheaper one | |
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| elray
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said by eagle2012 :$30 - 2GB
$20 - 300MB
There is something wrong with this math....
Nothing wrong at all. If you don't consume much data, you save $10. I know that's hard for DSLR bubblefolk to accept, but the vast majority of subscribers still use very little wireless data. | |
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2011-Aug-22 7:16 pm
Re: morons...said by elray:said by eagle2012 :$30 - 2GB
$20 - 300MB
There is something wrong with this math....
Nothing wrong at all. If you don't consume much data, you save $10. I know that's hard for DSLR bubblefolk to accept, but the vast majority of subscribers still use very little wireless data. That is true for many people. They use smartphone data to check a score; see headline news or stock market indexes; check in on Facebook. They DO NOT stream video to their smartphones. For those people a few hundred MB is all they need in a month. | |
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2011-Aug-22 10:14 pm
Re: morons...i do far more than that on my BB and have never gone over 200 megs. | |
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2011-Aug-22 2:50 pm
Fun with numbers$30 for 2GB (2000MB) = $0.015 per MB
At that rate,
300MB should be ($0.015 x 300MB) = $4.50
Clearly an artificial price point for metered pricing that all the carriers PRETEND to provide value to the customer and then argue in their PR stunts that "this is what the customers want".... | |
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Re: Fun with numberssaid by pkorx8:$30 for 2GB (2000MB) = $0.015 per MB
At that rate,
300MB should be ($0.015 x 300MB) = $4.50
Clearly an artificial price point for metered pricing that all the carriers PRETEND to provide value to the customer and then argue in their PR stunts that "this is what the customers want"....
Now you need to bring that freedom of speech to wherever verizon wirleless is sold and tell customers its a ripoff! Even at a VZ wireless store your allowed to express your opinion to the lemmings. | |
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| |  EdrickI aspire to tell the story of a lifetime
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Edrick
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2011-Aug-22 2:54 pm
Re: Fun with numberssaid by tmc8080:said by pkorx8:$30 for 2GB (2000MB) = $0.015 per MB
At that rate,
300MB should be ($0.015 x 300MB) = $4.50
Clearly an artificial price point for metered pricing that all the carriers PRETEND to provide value to the customer and then argue in their PR stunts that "this is what the customers want"....
Now you need to bring that freedom of speech to wherever verizon wirleless is sold and tell customers its a ripoff! Even at a VZ wireless store your allowed to express your opinion to the lemmings. Wait Americans stand up against corporate America? ahahahha | |
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2011-Aug-22 3:00 pm
Re: Fun with numbersJust making $25 for 2GB on ATT look better. | |
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2011-Aug-22 3:07 pm
Re: Fun with numberssaid by rupst2:Just making $25 for 2GB on ATT look better.
I won't be able to get a triple play discount for my FiOS services and cellular if I get ATT cellular instead of Verizon. Verizon is still cheaper for me than ATT since I save an extra $10 by bundling the cellular service with my FiOS service. | |
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I've had both AT&T and now Verizon and to be honest they both came up to about the same a month for the same basic package,
the prices are just slightly different
450 minutes
500 text / unlimited verizon to verizon texting, almost everyone I text is on verizon
1500 test on AT&T
2GB data on AT&T
Grandfathered Unlimited on Verizon
both come to about ~ $85 a month, Verizon is actually a few bucks cheaper and with only one choice for texting on AT&T now, AT&T would actually be more, AT&T also seems to have more extra fees than Verizon
In NJ at least I get a vastly superior network and a lower bill on Verizon, and I'm going to try to hold on to my grandfathered unlimited internet for as long as possible, already have a 4G phone so I should be set for at least 2 years on contract.
Not really meaning to defend Verizon, I know they are money hungry bastards, but network quality matters to me more than the 10 -15 dollars I could save a month by switching to a lesser network like t-mobile or sprint. | |
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Re: Fun with numberssaid by MovieLover76:In NJ at least I get a vastly superior network and a lower bill on Verizon, and I'm going to try to hold on to my grandfathered unlimited internet for as long as possible, already have a 4G phone so I should be set for at least 2 years on contract. I asked my business account rep about this last night and she indicated that you can upgrade from a 3G to a 4G smartphone without losing the unlimited data package. I would presume that means you can keep it with 4G to 4G upgrades as well. According to her this applies to both business and personal accounts. Unless their corporate philosophy changes a great deal I doubt they'll ever take away the grandfathering. I know people that are still on voice plans Verizon discontinued eight years ago. They've gone through several upgrades. Sucks for new customers though. | |
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also making T-Mobile $10 for 2GB even better. | |
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erm, no. A private company can dictate what can and cannot be said inside their premises. The first amendment, to which I believe you are referencing, applies only to public property, such as a sidewalk or town square.
You'll probably just be asked to leave, though. | |
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said by pkorx8:Clearly an artificial price point for metered pricing Price points are basically artificial by definition. | |
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said by pkorx8:$30 for 2GB (2000MB) = $0.015 per MB
At that rate,
300MB should be ($0.015 x 300MB) = $4.50
Clearly an artificial price point for metered pricing that all the carriers PRETEND to provide value to the customer and then argue in their PR stunts that "this is what the customers want"....
Well if you look at it that way you get 10 GB for $80. So the 5 GB plan should be $40 not $50 and the 2 GB plan should only be $16 not $30. So the 300 MB plan should be $2.40. But we all know even the 10 GB plan is overly priced. | |
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2011-Aug-22 4:21 pm
Just another thing the toothless FCC should at to the list of requirements to enforce:
"constant rate metered data pricing"
But I just dreaming and the general american public is too ignorant to see the truth behind smoke and mirrors put up by corporations. So if you can't beat them, buy their stocks! | |
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If you flip your calculation around and use the $20/300mb as the baseline, your $0.015 per MB becomes $0.067 Multiply that by 2000 MB and the 2 Gig plan should be costing $133.33/mo - FM | |
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2011-Aug-22 3:31 pm
"That should soon change..."Yeah...they'll drop the $30 2 GB plan altogether. | |
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Pound sandThing is they are playing us for fools. And to be honest there are plenty of them in this country.
What i'm waiting for is when the people that develop for these phones see their app sales slump cause of this. What I mean is take apps like garmin or navigon. Those apps use not only the gps but Agps from the towers along with map updates as they are driving. Once people see that they are getting gouged by the phone companies those apps will be dropped. Any data intensive app will suffer similarly. In their act of greed the phone companies might just kill that golden smartphone goose. | |
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2011-Aug-22 4:19 pm
Re: Pound sandThey will just throw money and lobbyists at Washington to get the net neutrality rules all but obliterated in some anti-consumer bill titled Fair Wireless Act. Then they can charge creators of bandwidth intensive apps a fee to have their service omitted from the amount counted toward the consumers' bandwidth limit; that is, if the wireless giants don't already have a proprietary version of an app with a similar function. See, if consumers want to have features like navigation and video apps available, we NEED net neutrality rules abolished. It's what the consumers want, and it is the only way to make it happen.  | |
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Smartphone v. Dumbphone salesI'd still like to know the ratio of phones being sold. You'd think that everyone is rushing out to buy the latest iPhone, HTC, Samsung or whatever because it's better than last month's model if you believe advertising. But what percent of the population still buys good old "feature" phones that don't require data plans?
I dread the day VZW finally greeds-up and drops data plan-free phones. I don't want one, don't need one, and really can't afford one. I NEVER want to have to count MBs and babysit caps again. | |
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Re: Smartphone v. Dumbphone salesHave u been in a Verizon store lately? ALL THEY HAVE ON THE SHLEVES ARE SMARTPHONES. I dont want that kind of phone, I had to order a flip online.
Wait until people realize that watching a movie on a 4" screen isnt all that cool. lol. | |
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Re: Smartphone v. Dumbphone salesFor a whole movie I agree, I don't normally watch that on a smartphone, though maybe if I was stuck on a train for plane for a long time.
In normal day to day usage I do find myself watching a 30 min tv show quite often on my phone while I'm waiting somewhere, 22 mins is less than the average wait at my doctors office for instance.
Not everyone needs a smartphone and they should continue to sell feature phones for those who don't need it, but smart phones have become an integral part of many people's lives, for instance mine
so I think the prediction that smart phones are going to go away with these caps is naive. eventually with VoLTE coming it will all just be data. | |
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Re: Smartphone v. Dumbphone salesMy latest phone is an LG Cosmos Touch, which was one of the handful of dumbphones still on display at our local Verizon Wireless store. It had the biggest screen and a sliding keyboard for texting; that was all I needed. What my daughter and I are looking forward to is iOS 5 for our iPads, especially now that she's in school in Chicago. We'll be able to text back and forth on the larger keyboards AND nice big screens. My iPad is why I don't want or need a smartphone! My near vision isn't that great these days and I appreciate not having to squint.  | |
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I pay $29.95/month (actually a tad less) for 100MB, but......I also get 1200 voice minutes and 2000 texts (will be upped to 3000 texts the next time I renew my plan).
I'm using an original Motorola Droid, but I can also use just about any other Verizon 3G smartphone too such as the Droid X or other 3G Droid.
Some downsides though: Roaming off the Verizon network is $0.29/minute and PagePlus's website blows. PP's customer service probably isn't quite up to par to Verizon's, even though they're all here in Ohio. | |
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nonymous (banned)
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2011-Aug-23 12:30 am
Didn't they just recently drop their unlimited planWasn't there a 30 or so unlimited plan recently dumper or grandfathered in.
Now only 20 for 2 gb. | |
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